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Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST
Posted By: Jim Pavelec <Genethoq@comcast.net>Date: 6/12/06 10:58 p.m.

In Response To: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST (Silas)

: Hi Jack

: thanks again for the response. You say you are erked by the this, believe me
: I am mortified that this could have happened.
: It has really upset me that I could have caused such anger.

: The cd I mentioned to you has thousands of wireframes on it, anything from
: pieces of furniture, weirdness like fire extinguishers
: through to miltary hardware. To the best of our knowlege there were some 200
: models
: of guns on there, ranging through all the ages from old Winchesters and colts
: through to modern guns. The offending wireframe
: was just one of those in a long list that I liked the look of. Boy, did I
: make a winning choice.
: There were things on this disk that came from properties like Star Wars and
: Star Trek. These were clearly marked and I therefore thought
: other things on there would be safe....

: I do take anything like this very seriously Jack and I cannot decribe to you
: how upset this has made me. The fact is that wireframe must have
: been influenced by the gun you have pointed to. If the title is as big as you
: say it is then it is very likely that someone who plays
: the game has gone with the design of the gun. No such description was there
: in the file title.

Dude,

You are a hack. Every cover of yours that I see is some montage of photos in Photoshop that you blast with light and cover with fog. I just saw a Raymond Feist cover of yours that you had the same guy in about 10 times, you just changed the weapons in his hands. Do you even know how to draw.

I have worked on D&D, Magic, Warhammer, and a ton of other properties, and every contract I have signed says that all parts of the illustration have to be original.

You are taking photos from wherever you please and other things that you had nothing to do with the design of to create your pieces, and somehow you keep getting work. It's amazing to me.


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Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesterdayTragicNocturne 6/11/06 3:51 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteZerowind117 6/11/06 4:07 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteWellsley 6/11/06 4:10 p.m.
     Holy Crap. That's Crazy!Steve 6/11/06 4:49 p.m.
     It's Plagiarism*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo And Sonic Fan 6/11/06 5:11 p.m.
           Re: It's PlagiarismZDS 6/11/06 5:49 p.m.
                 Re: It's PlagiarismTragicNocturne 6/11/06 5:50 p.m.
                       Still better than the halo book coversAdamantMonk 6/11/06 6:24 p.m.
                       Not possible.58 6/11/06 6:49 p.m.
                             Re: Not possible.Shade 6/11/06 7:58 p.m.
                                   I agree that it's a rip-off.58 6/11/06 8:18 p.m.
                                         2D images have the perspectice alteredDracc 6/23/06 12:01 a.m.
                                               Re: 2D images have the perspectice alteredSparkamus 6/24/06 1:18 p.m.
           Re: It's PlagiarismZerowind117 6/11/06 6:49 p.m.
                 Re: It's PlagiarismAldiron 6/11/06 7:04 p.m.
                       Wonder who and what else he stole *NM*Dojorkan 6/11/06 7:09 p.m.
                             Re: Wonder who and what else he stoleDangerousHippo 6/11/06 7:11 p.m.
           Hilarioius... people will steal anything *NM*JeBr0nie 6/11/06 8:16 p.m.
           Re: It's Plagiarismdoober187 6/12/06 4:33 a.m.
                 Re: It's PlagiarismDundre 6/15/06 8:11 a.m.
     Wow...Mastergunnz 6/11/06 7:23 p.m.
           Re: Wow...zugy 6/11/06 7:54 p.m.
                 Re: Wow...Mastergunnz 6/11/06 9:31 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yestePvt. Jenkins 6/11/06 7:23 p.m.
     Uh oh...DangerousHippo 6/11/06 7:36 p.m.
     This guy is going down.*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo And Sonic Fan 6/11/06 7:47 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteSilas 6/11/06 7:48 p.m.
           Nevermind, it activates auto *NM*Silas 6/11/06 7:49 p.m.
     ANSWER FROM THE AUTHORSilas 6/11/06 7:58 p.m.
           The artist is Steve Stone *NM*Silas 6/11/06 8:01 p.m.
           Re: ANSWER FROM THE AUTHORTragicNocturne 6/11/06 8:07 p.m.
     Transcript of Email to the artistSilas 6/11/06 8:12 p.m.
     QUOTE FROM AUTHORSilas 6/11/06 8:18 p.m.
           Re: QUOTE FROM AUTHORDojorkan 6/11/06 8:33 p.m.
                 Another post from author.Dojorkan 6/12/06 6:33 a.m.
                       Re: Another post from author.Louis Wu 6/12/06 6:35 a.m.
                             VampireEarth.bungie.org.Dojorkan 6/12/06 7:25 a.m.
                                   Re: VampireEarth.bungie.org.DanteThePoet 6/12/06 1:02 p.m.
                             I don't. (More from the author...)TrueBeliever 6/12/06 1:51 p.m.
                             Re: Another post from author.Jillybean 6/14/06 3:07 p.m.
                                   Re: Another post from author.Louis Wu 6/14/06 5:45 p.m.
                       KMS AhrnaieaninInteresting... While in Barnes and Noble yesterday 6/12/06 1:48 p.m.
                       Re: Another post from author.Peptuck 6/14/06 8:44 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteN/A 6/11/06 8:39 p.m.
     BR is a real weapon...spartanerik 6/11/06 8:53 p.m.
           Re: BR is a real weapon...Shade 6/11/06 8:58 p.m.
           Re: BR is a real weapon...Louis Wu 6/11/06 9:02 p.m.
                 Re: BR is a real weapon...elessar787 6/11/06 9:11 p.m.
                       PROOFjakedagreat 6/11/06 9:35 p.m.
                             Re: PROOFgijake 6/11/06 9:43 p.m.
                             Re: PROOFDangerousHippo 6/11/06 9:44 p.m.
                                   Re: PROOFjakedagreat 6/11/06 10:16 p.m.
                             Re: PROOFthe anton 6/11/06 10:45 p.m.
                                   The stock is originalDanteThePoet 6/12/06 1:00 a.m.
                                         Re: The stock is originalFullforce 6/12/06 10:38 a.m.
                                               Re: The stock is originalAOClaus 6/12/06 5:09 p.m.
                                                     Re: The stock is originalDojorkan 6/12/06 5:21 p.m.
                             Re: PROOF - AGAINBOLL 6/14/06 8:35 a.m.
                                   l337 skillz *NM*c0ld vengeance 6/14/06 8:57 a.m.
                                   Re: PROOF - AGAINspartanerik 6/14/06 9:54 a.m.
                                   Haxxorz!!1111! *NM*Boris 6/14/06 10:36 a.m.
                                   Re: PROOF - AGAINJakeDaGreat 6/14/06 2:29 p.m.
                                   Re: PROOF - AGAINMasta Chef 6/14/06 5:38 p.m.
                                   Re: PROOF - AGAINdoober187 6/15/06 12:05 a.m.
                                         Lawl... Motion Sickness! *NM*Masta Chef 6/15/06 12:37 a.m.
                                   Re: PROOF - AGAINdoober187 6/15/06 12:24 a.m.
                             Re: PROOFEcho 6/15/06 1:46 a.m.
                                   Re: PROOFE.E. Knight 6/15/06 7:26 a.m.
                                         HardcoreSilas 6/15/06 7:31 a.m.
                                               Re: HardcoreE.E. Knight 6/15/06 8:02 a.m.
                                         Re: PROOF"Anonymus" 6/15/06 10:22 a.m.
                                         Re: PROOFMa1agate 6/15/06 10:50 a.m.
                                   Re: PROOFmot 6/15/06 10:52 a.m.
                                   Re: PROOFDojorkan 6/15/06 1:15 p.m.
                                   Re: PROOFDark One 6/15/06 8:44 p.m.
                                         Re: PROOFDojorkan 6/15/06 9:01 p.m.
                                         Re: PROOFLouis Wu 6/15/06 9:24 p.m.
                                               Re: PROOFMasta Chef 6/15/06 9:44 p.m.
                                               Re: PROOFDark One 6/15/06 9:50 p.m.
                                                     Re: PROOFE.E. Knight 6/17/06 3:27 p.m.
                                                           Re: PROOFKP 6/18/06 12:36 a.m.
                                               Seven Basic PlotsInfantier 6/16/06 11:43 a.m.
                                         Try again!E.E. Knight 6/17/06 3:16 p.m.
           Re: BR is a real weapon...Pvt. Jenkins 6/11/06 9:03 p.m.
                 Re: BR is a real weapon...Lukey125 6/11/06 9:45 p.m.
                       Re: BR is a real weapon...Devil Mingy 6/11/06 9:57 p.m.
                             Re: BR is a real weapon...Slimby 6/12/06 2:28 a.m.
           Not really.Peptuck 6/12/06 12:22 a.m.
           BASED!Vironex 6/12/06 12:46 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteScariot 6/11/06 9:20 p.m.
           not to worry- it was probably CARDBOARD *NM* *NM*GGD 6/11/06 9:59 p.m.
                 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *NM*doober187 6/13/06 2:54 a.m.
           Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteMikezoom 6/11/06 10:31 p.m.
     At least it wasn't an Assault Rifle...XD *NM* *NM*Mastergunnz 6/11/06 10:16 p.m.
           Re: At least it wasn't an Assault Rifle...XDSparkamus 6/11/06 11:32 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteQuikthnkr 6/12/06 1:49 a.m.
           Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteQuikthnkr 6/12/06 1:52 a.m.
           Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yestespartan331 6/12/06 8:23 a.m.
                 Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteE.E. Knight 6/12/06 9:22 a.m.
                       Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yeste *NM*E.E. Knight 6/12/06 9:23 a.m.
                       Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteE.E. Knight 6/12/06 9:24 a.m.
                             Hello New User :)Miguel Chavez 6/12/06 9:30 a.m.
                                   Re: Hello New User :)E.E. Knight 6/12/06 9:35 a.m.
                                         Re: Hello New User :)Miguel Chavez 6/12/06 9:50 a.m.
                                               Re: Hello New User :)E.E. Knight 6/12/06 11:33 a.m.
                                                     Mr. KnightPinkuh 6/12/06 1:21 p.m.
                                                           Re: Mr. KnightE.E. Knight 6/12/06 2:27 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Mr. KnightPinkuh 6/12/06 2:34 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Mr. KnightBitMaP 6/12/06 4:42 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Mr. KnightE.E. Knight 6/12/06 5:44 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Mr. KnightLouis Wu 6/12/06 5:50 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Mr. KnightMasta Chef 6/12/06 7:52 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Mr. KnightGrey en Venezuela 6/12/06 10:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: Hello New User :)Quikthnkr 6/12/06 4:21 p.m.
                                                           Re: Hello New User :)Dojorkan 6/12/06 4:47 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteLekku 6/12/06 7:16 a.m.
           Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteMastergunnz 6/12/06 10:13 a.m.
                 Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yeste58 6/12/06 10:28 a.m.
                       Aaaand here we go again... *NM*Ryan Broxterman 6/12/06 11:16 a.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yestePaladin117 6/12/06 11:38 a.m.
     EMAIL FROM BOOKS AUTHORSilas 6/12/06 11:45 a.m.
           Re: EMAIL FROM BOOKS AUTHORhalofreak1991 6/12/06 11:50 a.m.
           Re: EMAIL FROM THE ARTISTMiguel Chavez 6/12/06 11:55 a.m.
                 Re: EMAIL FROM THE ARTISThalofreak1991 6/12/06 11:57 a.m.
                       Re: EMAIL FROM THE ARTISTMiguel Chavez 6/12/06 12:02 p.m.
                       Re: EMAIL FROM THE ARTISTdoober187 6/13/06 3:06 a.m.
                 Re: EMAIL FROM THE ARTISTExodus7 6/12/06 11:59 a.m.
                       It's the Guardians, I tell yah! *nm*Popetacular 6/12/06 12:02 p.m.
           Art fake *Proof*Pinkuh 6/12/06 12:59 p.m.
                 Damn good job, Pinkuh. *NM*Cullen 6/12/06 1:06 p.m.
                 Re: Art fake *Proof*mot 6/12/06 1:17 p.m.
                       WowSchedonnardus 6/12/06 1:20 p.m.
                             Re: Wowmot 6/12/06 1:37 p.m.
                       Re: Art fake *Proof*KevinP15 6/12/06 1:56 p.m.
                 Re: Art fake *Proof*MrAlexZander 6/12/06 1:17 p.m.
                       Re: Art fake *Proof*Pinkuh 6/12/06 1:23 p.m.
                             Re: Art fake *Proof*58 6/12/06 1:31 p.m.
                 the barnSchedonnardus 6/12/06 2:27 p.m.
                       Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT ImageSchedonnardus 6/12/06 2:38 p.m.
                             Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT ImSpeedhuntr 6/12/06 2:49 p.m.
                             Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT Immot 6/12/06 2:51 p.m.
                                   Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT ImSparkamus 6/12/06 3:03 p.m.
                                   Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT ImOutsider 6/12/06 3:19 p.m.
                                         Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT Imjman571 6/12/06 3:26 p.m.
                                         Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT ImLukey125 6/12/06 6:58 p.m.
                                               Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT ImThe First Spartan 6/14/06 5:04 p.m.
                             Re: Right barn, Wrong Photo - I found the EXACT ImMinkOWar 6/14/06 8:50 p.m.
                 GO PINKUH! Yeah!TragicNocturne 6/12/06 4:07 p.m.
                 Re: Art fake *Proof*doober187 6/12/06 5:03 p.m.
     NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTSilas 6/12/06 7:58 p.m.
           Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTDojorkan 6/12/06 8:05 p.m.
           Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTDojorkan 6/12/06 8:06 p.m.
                 Is this legal? *NM*WhiteRaBblt 6/12/06 8:49 p.m.
                       Re: Is this legal?mot 6/12/06 9:31 p.m.
                             I'm sure M$ lawyers are already on it.huskerblackshrt 6/12/06 10:16 p.m.
                 NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - my thoughts...TragicNocturne 6/12/06 8:52 p.m.
           Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeE.E. Knight 6/12/06 10:26 p.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takePinkuh 6/12/06 10:40 p.m.
                       One One Se7en Guest Strip by me!TragicNocturne 6/12/06 10:47 p.m.
                             aww... someone take a peek! *NM*TragicNocturne 6/12/06 11:10 p.m.
                                   Re: aww... someone take a peek!huskerblackshrt 6/12/06 11:18 p.m.
                                         Re: aww... someone take a peek!Panther Reloaded 6/13/06 10:10 a.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takemot 6/12/06 10:46 p.m.
                       Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeE.E. Knight 6/12/06 10:53 p.m.
                             Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takemot 6/12/06 10:57 p.m.
                                   Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeLoneRanger 2.5 6/14/06 1:24 p.m.
                             Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takemot 6/16/06 2:36 a.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takehuskerblackshrt 6/12/06 10:48 p.m.
                       Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeAdamantMonk 6/13/06 1:24 a.m.
                             Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeBry 6/18/06 9:35 a.m.
                                   Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeWalshicus 6/18/06 9:46 a.m.
                                         Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeBry 6/18/06 10:16 a.m.
                                               Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeBry 6/18/06 10:22 a.m.
                                               Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeWalshicus 6/18/06 11:34 a.m.
                                                     Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeBry 6/18/06 11:59 a.m.
                                                           Admiral Hood, chosen for a reasonInfantier 6/18/06 5:40 p.m.
                                   Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeDougBailey 6/18/06 2:17 p.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeWhiteRaBblt 6/12/06 10:59 p.m.
                       Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeE.E. Knight 6/12/06 11:10 p.m.
                             Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takemot 6/12/06 11:33 p.m.
                                   Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeDojorkan 6/13/06 6:27 a.m.
                             Good Move'Nosolee 6/13/06 12:00 a.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takeSpartansOnFire 6/13/06 1:04 a.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateE.E. Knight 6/13/06 8:09 a.m.
                       Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateDojorkan 6/13/06 1:08 p.m.
                             Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateSchedonnardus 6/13/06 1:24 p.m.
                                   Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateLouis Wu 6/13/06 1:30 p.m.
                                         Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateE.E. Knight 6/14/06 7:21 p.m.
                                               Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updatemot 6/14/06 7:35 p.m.
                                   Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateDojorkan 6/13/06 1:39 p.m.
                                         Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateSchedonnardus 6/13/06 1:51 p.m.
                       Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's updateNarcogen 6/14/06 6:43 a.m.
                 Nobody does this kind of thing just once.Narcogen 6/14/06 6:38 a.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTIST - author's takemplacki 6/14/06 10:46 a.m.
                       Another author updateE.E. Knight 6/14/06 11:53 a.m.
                             Re: Another author updateQuikthnkr 6/14/06 1:39 p.m.
                             Re: Another author updateFunkmon 6/14/06 2:51 p.m.
                             Re: Another author updateWhiteRaBbit 6/14/06 5:03 p.m.
                                   Re: Another author updatedoober187 6/15/06 12:13 a.m.
                             Yargh! I need to go get a copy! *NM*Masta Chef 6/14/06 5:17 p.m.
                 With this postJillybean 6/14/06 3:01 p.m.
           Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTJim Pavelec 6/12/06 10:58 p.m.
                 Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTmot 6/12/06 11:06 p.m.
                       Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTJim Pavelec 6/12/06 11:55 p.m.
                             Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTmot 6/13/06 12:13 a.m.
                             Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTLouis Wu 6/13/06 1:34 a.m.
                                   Re: NEW EMAIL FROM ARTISTWiley K 6/13/06 4:25 p.m.
                 $7 sez the artist is the 1st one in the slingshot *NM*Masta Chef 6/12/06 11:15 p.m.
     Interview with E.E. KnightQuikthnkr 6/13/06 9:36 a.m.
     My Snooping is Done Here...Silas 6/13/06 7:56 p.m.
           Great. Here's some more snooping for you.BS Halo rks 6/13/06 8:26 p.m.
                 Re: Great. Here's some more snooping for you.Teo 6/13/06 8:59 p.m.
                 Re: Great. Here's some more snooping for you.gijake 6/13/06 10:00 p.m.
                       Sorry, man, it's been haunting me... *NM*Bs Halo rks 6/13/06 11:08 p.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteQuickTactical 6/13/06 11:13 p.m.
           Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteMiguel Chavez 6/13/06 11:53 p.m.
                 Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteTragicNocturne 6/14/06 2:36 a.m.
                 Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteAdamantMonk 6/14/06 2:41 a.m.
                       To the disbelievers:TragicNocturne 6/14/06 3:02 a.m.
                             Re: To the disbelievers:AdamantMonk 6/14/06 3:12 a.m.
                                   Re: To the disbelievers:Louis Wu 6/14/06 9:15 a.m.
                             Re: To the disbelievers:Miguel Chavez 6/14/06 9:06 a.m.
                                   Come on...ll Sgt Scope ll 6/14/06 11:31 a.m.
                                         Re: Come on...doober187 6/15/06 12:22 a.m.
                                   Re: To the disbelievers:Milhouse 6/14/06 5:27 p.m.
                             Even I think it is time to drop it...Silas 6/14/06 9:34 p.m.
                                   Re: Even I think it is time to drop it...mot 6/14/06 9:40 p.m.
                                   Re: Even I think it is time to drop it...masterskill 6/14/06 10:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Even I think it is time to drop it...Schedonnardus 6/15/06 10:27 a.m.
                                         Re: Even I think it is time to drop it...Silas 6/18/06 4:03 p.m.
                                               Re: Even I think it is time to drop it...Dojorkan 6/18/06 5:31 p.m.
                                                     Re: Even I think it is time to drop it...Silas 6/18/06 7:45 p.m.
                                                           No, it isn't.58 6/18/06 9:29 p.m.
                                                                 Re: No, it isn't.Silas 6/18/06 9:37 p.m.
                                                                       Re: No, it isn't.Dojorkan 6/18/06 9:47 p.m.
                                                                             Re: No, it isn't.Silas 6/18/06 9:48 p.m.
                                                                       ...58 6/18/06 11:09 p.m.
                                                                             Re: ...Dojorkan 6/18/06 11:19 p.m.
                                                                                   Er. >.<58 6/19/06 9:24 a.m.
                                                                       Re: No, it isn't.Gordon Freeman 6/18/06 11:45 p.m.
                                                                             Re: No, it isn't.doober187 6/19/06 1:05 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: No, it isn't.Dojorkan 6/19/06 1:11 a.m.
     Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yeste"Anonymus" 6/15/06 10:19 a.m.
           Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteMa1agate 6/15/06 11:07 a.m.
                 Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteMiguel Chavez 6/15/06 12:13 p.m.
                 Re: Interesting... While in Barnes and Noble yesteGary 6/15/06 1:16 p.m.



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