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Clarification of my ideas
Posted By: Louis Wu <halo@bungie.org>Date: 1/13/06 8:07 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed! (Quantum)

: This is exactly what I was talking about when I said that there would be a
: mandatory reference section. Quote from game-cinematic or level /
: book-page and scientific source. However, I think a comments section would
: best be left to the same email that submissions are sent to.

: I propose a communal email address where all submissions go, accessible to
: editors. These people also can edit the page itself. I think that most, if
: not all, submissions may need to be edited some before posting, some
: significantly more than others, so that they are of comparable quality to
: Mr. Loftus's articles. And of course, independently verify submissions via
: submitted references and souces - as well as the scientific validity of
: sources.

: And Stephen, no one is forcing you to give up your time if you would rather
: do your own articles. I, for one, wish I could live for 300 years, and
: have 48-hour days, so that I might do everything I want.

The primary reason I thought that the page should have a backend that was closer to the MPRRS/MCD style than the Story page style was time.

The Story Page is sporadically updated - but it receives submissions every single day. (We're not even talking about the relevant material that's posted on the forum here.) There are three editors for the page; all three are rather busy in real life. When they find time, they sift through the submissions to the Story page - but they've got to deal with spam, and many years of existing material; deciding what's actually new takes time and work - so it's slow going.

If a submission page existed which required verifiable references and personal identification WITH THE SUBMISSION, then editing becomes MUCH easier; the editor simply needs to confirm the reference, do a quick search to ensure the info hasn't already been posted, and hit 'Approved'. Content will get from the submitters to the public MUCH more quickly than it does for the Story page.

(I'm not for a second criticizing the job the Story Page guys do - the info they collect, and sift, and process is MUCH more nebulous than a 'science page' collection would be, and REQUIRES more editor input than the Science Page will need. I'm just saying that the needs for a new site are quite different.)

Disclaimer: This is a page which has been suggested by a group of fans. This will be, in the end, a page BUILT by a group of fans. If this group sees a different way to lay the page out than I do - go for it. As long as it makes sense in the end, I'm fine with hosting it. I was just providing some input based on a few years of doing this sort of thing - but that doesn't make my way the only way.

The OTHER problem with the story page layout is that it's built in a language I'm moving away from; I'm not willing to duplicate it for a new site, because I no longer want to support this language. I haven't undertaken the (somewhat daunting) task of rewriting the code in php yet - so there's no useful code to cannibalize from there at this point. That doesn't mean someone can't write something that's FUNCTIONALLY equivalent, if you believe it's a better format for this data - it simply means that "just duplicate the story directory, change the database pointers, and we're set to go" isn't a valid route for this page.


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Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!Quantum 12/30/05 1:24 p.m.
     Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!Noobinator 12/30/05 1:42 p.m.
           Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!Noobinator 12/30/05 1:43 p.m.
           good idea!! *NM*BS Halo rks 12/30/05 6:36 p.m.
     Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!Michael M. 12/30/05 2:07 p.m.
     Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!slayer117 12/30/05 3:31 p.m.
           Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!M6D 12/30/05 4:05 p.m.
                 Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!Quantum 12/30/05 4:54 p.m.
     Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!PingZing 12/30/05 5:57 p.m.
     Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!jman571 12/30/05 8:05 p.m.
           Re: Halo Science Page - Need Feedback!Jagged 12/30/05 11:26 p.m.
     Small clarification...Louis Wu 12/31/05 6:29 a.m.
           Re: Small clarification...Quantum 12/31/05 1:15 p.m.
                 Why not just rip the system for the story page?Psychophan7 12/31/05 3:55 p.m.
                       Re: Why not just rip the system for the story pageQuantum 12/31/05 4:15 p.m.
                             Re: Why not just rip the system for the story pagemnemesis 1/1/06 3:13 p.m.
                                   Re: Why not just rip the system for the story pageQuantum 1/1/06 9:28 p.m.
                 Re: Small clarification...ThorsHammer 1/1/06 11:13 a.m.
     BiologyJillybean 12/31/05 9:10 a.m.
           Re: BiologyAin Soph Aur 12/31/05 11:29 a.m.
           Re: BiologyQuantum 12/31/05 1:12 p.m.
                 Re: BiologyStephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/31/05 2:38 p.m.
                       Re: BiologyQuantum 12/31/05 4:01 p.m.
                             Re: BiologyStephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/1/06 3:49 p.m.
                                   Telepathy? *NM*Wado SG 1/2/06 2:33 p.m.
                                         If it is, I got nothing.... *NM*Quantum 1/2/06 2:34 p.m.
                                         Re: Telepathy?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/2/06 2:56 p.m.
                 Re: BiologyJillybean 1/1/06 11:57 a.m.
     Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Quantum 1/11/06 5:43 p.m.
           Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!jman571 1/11/06 7:26 p.m.
                 Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Quantum 1/11/06 7:33 p.m.
                       I might be able to helpLegendaryMark 1/12/06 4:56 a.m.
                             Re: I might be able to helpBlack Guard 1/12/06 6:19 a.m.
                       Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Jillybean 1/12/06 6:03 a.m.
                             Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!LegendaryMark 1/12/06 6:09 a.m.
                             Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/06 7:00 a.m.
                                   Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Jillybean 1/12/06 6:38 p.m.
                                         Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Quantum 1/12/06 7:13 p.m.
                                               Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Jillybean 1/12/06 7:26 p.m.
                                               Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Echoes 1/12/06 8:31 p.m.
                                                     Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/06 10:08 p.m.
                                                           Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Quantum 1/12/06 10:44 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo Science Page - Volunteers Needed!Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/13/06 7:50 a.m.
                                                                 Clarification of my ideasLouis Wu 1/13/06 8:07 a.m.



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