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Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?
Posted By: Stefan Countryman <mcpostefan@gmail.com>Date: 10/28/05 10:00 a.m.

In Response To: Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act? (Deej)

: The other big problem with Master Chief is the question of whether or not the
: face is revealed. I honestly can see no way of keeping him in the armour
: for the duration of the film without it becoming a crutch to the movie.
: Many have said it; there just isn’t enough emotional scope with a face
: plate. Now in certain circumstances it is possible to use other cinematic
: devices to almost piece emotion together: combining music, framing,
: editing, the direction of other characters can be combined so as to create
: the emotion in the mind of the audience and indeed the blankness of the
: face plate may add to this sometimes. However, for a significant amount of
: time this just wont be possible. When I was seventeen I did a project and
: school where I showed people an episode of RvB. They liked it, but almost
: everyone said “Hated the Power Ranger-type head nodding.” Now, Halo isn’t
: the Power Rangers, but the fact that that link has been made is surely
: terrifying enough to get the point across.

there is one cutscene which, above all else, has convinced me that if done correctly, acting can be achieved through a visor. it was only one scene, and the gesture was nary 5 seconds, but i connected with the chief on a human level after seeing it. it is from my favorite cutscene, the final cinematic of halo 1, right after you see the explosion and you hear the chief say, "did any one else make it?" and then bows his head down and slowly shakes it. that showed me that he was a deep character, that he felt to, and that he cared not just about the human race as a whole, but for each individual who died. together with the music, the scene was a very short but powerful one, and was enough to leave a mark on my impression of him. i am sure that only one or two scenes like this in the movie could really make an impact, and allow us to "fill in the blanks", such as his thoughts and how he would emote them if we could see his face. one of the greatest things is how cold steve downes voice seems, but then you see that the chief has real feelings, and just getting to see that little gesticulation and almost sad tone of voice makes the story real. those are just my opinions on the subject, and if these small showings of humanity are done more than a couple times in the movie they will lose most of their meaning. yes, mc is a killing machine, but not because he wants to be one.


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The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Louis Wu 10/26/05 10:31 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Blackhawk314 10/26/05 10:36 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?jman571 10/26/05 10:57 p.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?DoT_Gunslinger 10/26/05 11:52 p.m.
                       Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?zwitterion117 10/27/05 2:24 a.m.
                             Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?SumSophisticatedName 10/27/05 3:47 a.m.
                                   100,000,000* *NM*SumSophisticatedName 10/27/05 2:59 p.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Yappy 10/28/05 9:49 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?The REAL Guiilty Spark 10/27/05 7:12 a.m.
                 We will always be behind youMiguel Chavez 10/27/05 7:53 a.m.
                       Re: We will always be behind youThe REAL Guiilty Spark 10/27/05 9:19 a.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Captain Spark 10/27/05 9:06 a.m.
                       Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?The REAL Guiilty Spark 10/27/05 9:26 a.m.
                             Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Captain Spark 10/27/05 10:37 a.m.
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                                         Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Captain Spark 10/27/05 11:11 a.m.
                                               Re: Comic Book- The Moviegspawn 10/27/05 3:15 p.m.
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                                               Fran Dresher, Hollywood's Guilty Spark *NM*N1ghthawk 117 10/27/05 11:37 a.m.
                             Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 9:55 p.m.
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                             Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Nom 10/27/05 3:40 p.m.
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                                               Vin Diesel is no MasterChief, but he is a cool guyAngelicLionheart 10/27/05 9:16 p.m.
                                                     Re: Vin Diesel is no MasterChief, but he is a coolCaptain Spark 10/27/05 9:33 p.m.
                                                           Vin Diesel is no MasterChief, but he is a cool guyAngelicLionheart 10/27/05 9:40 p.m.
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                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Narcogen 10/27/05 11:59 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?insaneidiot 10/26/05 10:41 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?djstan 10/26/05 10:46 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?mr_mcmurder 10/26/05 10:56 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?SumSophisticatedName 10/26/05 11:15 p.m.
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     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Guardian [cheaptrickfan09] 10/26/05 10:57 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?ManKitten 10/26/05 10:58 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?SumSophisticatedName 10/26/05 11:17 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?EvilREDRABBIT 10/27/05 11:01 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Dualist 10/26/05 11:01 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?jman571 10/26/05 11:03 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Smandon 10/26/05 11:01 p.m.
     ::applause::Jager 10/26/05 11:03 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Angrist 10/26/05 11:05 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Michael M. 10/26/05 11:05 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?gutupio 10/26/05 11:26 p.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?DiscipleN2k 10/27/05 12:15 a.m.
                       Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?gutupio 10/27/05 12:21 a.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?DoT_Gunslinger 10/28/05 3:13 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Pballwizard 10/27/05 7:04 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Ain Soph Aur 10/26/05 11:07 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?ManKitten 10/26/05 11:09 p.m.
     Keep the Armor ON, We Don't Wanna See JOHN! *NM*Mintz 10/26/05 11:09 p.m.
           Re: Keep the Armor ON, We Don't Wanna See JOHN!Blackstar 10/27/05 1:59 a.m.
                 Don't quit your dayjob. *NM*Konrad 10/27/05 2:45 a.m.
                 Re: Keep the Armor ON, We Don't Wanna See JOHN!Narcogen 10/27/05 3:05 a.m.
                 Re: Keep the Armor ON, We Don't Wanna See JOHN!RC Master 10/27/05 12:41 p.m.
                       Re: Keep the Armor ON, We Don't Wanna See JOHN!Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/27/05 1:04 p.m.
                       Re: Keep the Armor ON, We Don't Wanna See JOHN!Blackstar 10/27/05 3:10 p.m.
                             Re: Keep the Armor ON, We Don't Wanna See JOHN!RC Master 10/28/05 7:51 a.m.
           Speak for yourself! I plan on seeing much moreJilly - somewhere else 10/27/05 5:27 a.m.
                 Re: Speak for yourself! I plan on seeing much moreAngelicLionheart 10/27/05 1:37 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Roland 10/26/05 11:11 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Doctor Nightfall 10/26/05 11:15 p.m.
           Two Words: Nightmare Armor *NM*Sparkypinball 10/27/05 7:09 a.m.
                 Nightmare Armor.. EEW! nm *NM*cpu64 10/28/05 1:45 a.m.
                       memories... :(AngelicLionheart 10/28/05 2:05 a.m.
                             Jerkssorahn 10/28/05 11:24 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Turkman 10/26/05 11:24 p.m.
     Same voices. No face. Pray. *NM*Eastbeast314 10/26/05 11:43 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Konrad 10/26/05 11:44 p.m.
     A thoughtSpenser 10/26/05 11:53 p.m.
           I'm not that attachedmr_mcmurder 10/27/05 12:41 a.m.
     Original Voice Actors = Win *NM*Self Induced 10/27/05 12:08 a.m.
     I totally agree, Louis.Omniscient 10/27/05 12:31 a.m.
           Re: disagreement- aliensgspawn 10/27/05 3:17 p.m.
     Here's my opinion...stan 10/27/05 12:37 a.m.
     Re: He's not the leader fer nuthin'- kudos *NM*gspawn 10/27/05 12:39 a.m.
     Wow Louis.....343winks. 10/27/05 1:21 a.m.
     Original voice actors are a mustreprobate 10/27/05 2:08 a.m.
           John 117 as a young man.AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 2:42 a.m.
                 Re: John 117 as a young man.Sparkypinball 10/27/05 6:50 a.m.
                       Re: John 117 as a young man.smeginfrell 10/27/05 9:36 a.m.
                             Re: John 117 as a young man. *Clarification*Sparkypinball 10/27/05 3:29 p.m.
                       Re: John 117 as a young man.Dry Ice 10/27/05 1:10 p.m.
                       Oh God no! Not Whoopi Goldberg are you insane? *NM*Hminn 10/27/05 6:27 p.m.
           Hear, hear! *NM*Narcogen 10/27/05 3:05 a.m.
           Re: Original voice actors are a mustStefan Countryman 10/27/05 2:30 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Dinim 10/27/05 2:15 a.m.
     Faithfulness. Fidelity.AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 2:32 a.m.
           Re: Faithfulness. Fidelity.Son Goharotto 10/27/05 10:16 a.m.
                 Re: Faithfulness. Fidelity.AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 2:01 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Michael M. 10/27/05 3:50 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Firelode 10/27/05 3:59 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stuntmutt 10/27/05 4:07 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?reprobate 10/27/05 5:24 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - who indeed...vshields ash 10/27/05 6:42 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?mnemesis 10/27/05 11:58 a.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stefan Countryman 10/27/05 3:42 p.m.
                       Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?GryphonOsiris 10/27/05 5:08 p.m.
           Here's an idea:Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/27/05 12:03 p.m.
           The Halo Movie - It's not for them - it's for us.AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 7:48 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?n4orcer 10/27/05 4:26 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 2:19 p.m.
     How unusualJilly - somewhere else 10/27/05 5:00 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?BeardedFerret 10/27/05 6:08 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Capt_thanas 10/27/05 6:40 a.m.
           Julie Benz - the voice of Miranda Keyes.AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 2:44 p.m.
                 StorySebas 10/27/05 5:08 p.m.
                       Re: StoryStefan Countryman 10/28/05 2:10 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Arbiter_347 10/27/05 6:34 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?The Happy Wraith 10/27/05 6:54 a.m.
     What about the Covenant?Arbiter_347 10/27/05 7:40 a.m.
     A very difficult characterTempus Fugit 10/27/05 8:09 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Bumbadawg 10/27/05 8:09 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Bumbadawg 10/27/05 8:11 a.m.
     To Hollywood Execs - A considered opinionChris Harris 10/27/05 8:11 a.m.
           Re: To Hollywood Execs - A considered opinionPeptuck 10/28/05 2:25 a.m.
     My early morning thoughts...Ducain 10/27/05 8:18 a.m.
           Re: My early morning thoughts...The Happy Wraith 10/27/05 1:29 p.m.
           Re: My early morning thoughts...Obsydian 10/28/05 4:01 p.m.
     Andy SerkisYaksha 10/27/05 9:00 a.m.
           Re: Andy SerkisStuntcafe 10/27/05 10:20 a.m.
                 Coffee... meet monitor. *NM*Louis Wu 10/27/05 10:42 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Ma1agate 10/27/05 9:13 a.m.
     I do not agree - and that's okay :)Mothergoat 10/27/05 9:21 a.m.
           Re: I do not agree - and that's okay :)Khaim 10/27/05 9:41 a.m.
           Good point, but I have to disagree, tooFoolsRun 10/27/05 10:03 a.m.
                 Re: Good point, but I have to disagree, tooCaptain Spark 10/27/05 11:25 a.m.
                 Another good point, but also...Mothergoat 10/27/05 12:07 p.m.
                       Re: Another good point, but also...FoolsRun 10/27/05 1:46 p.m.
                             Tangent on Spartan voices ;')reprobate 10/27/05 7:06 p.m.
           Re: I do not agree - and that's okay :)Captain Spark 10/27/05 11:06 a.m.
                 Re: I do not agree - and that's okay :)Mothergoat 10/27/05 12:02 p.m.
           Re: I do not agree - and that's okay :)Mothergoat 10/27/05 12:08 p.m.
           Re: I do not agree - agreed...Jen...Yeh ;)vshields ash 10/27/05 4:51 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Deej 10/27/05 9:42 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stefan Countryman 10/28/05 10:00 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?J3ST3R 10/27/05 9:59 a.m.
     Changes if necessary, but not necessarily changes.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/27/05 10:09 a.m.
           *raises glass to Stevo*Ducain 10/27/05 10:17 a.m.
           Re: Changes if necessary, but not necessarily chanGLewis 10/27/05 10:34 a.m.
           PS: other examples of re-casting (or not)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/27/05 11:27 a.m.
                 ^^^OopsAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/27/05 11:35 a.m.
     Cats. And, indeed, pigeons.Stuntcafe 10/27/05 10:11 a.m.
           Re: Cats. And, indeed, pigeons.Usul 10/28/05 8:16 a.m.
                 Re: Cats. And, indeed, pigeons.Stuntmutt 10/28/05 9:41 a.m.
                       Re: Cats. And, indeed, pigeons.Narcogen 10/28/05 11:16 a.m.
     Anyone but Vin! or, Go for the Vader effect!DogCow 10/27/05 10:24 a.m.
           Re: Anyone but Vin! or, Go for the Vader effect!Jenni 10/27/05 10:37 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Sep7imus [subnova] 10/27/05 10:37 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Louis Wu 10/27/05 10:44 a.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Sep7imus [subnova] 10/27/05 12:54 p.m.
     Wu, you seriously need a blog! *NM*Switch 9 10/27/05 11:18 a.m.
           I have a few. ;)Louis Wu 10/27/05 11:37 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stuicide 10/27/05 12:09 p.m.
     A voice of one crying in the wilderness.Finn 10/27/05 12:22 p.m.
           Average Humans rejoice! I agree 100%! *NM*reprobate 10/27/05 7:32 p.m.
           Re: A voice of one crying in the wilderness.AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 9:37 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Ogun 10/27/05 12:33 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Frogwart 10/27/05 1:52 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Echoes 10/27/05 2:17 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Shishka 10/27/05 3:28 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Finn 10/27/05 3:40 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?SumSophisticatedName 10/27/05 3:45 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?AngelicLionheart 10/27/05 3:50 p.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Shishka 10/27/05 4:06 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stuntmutt 10/27/05 3:54 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Jillybean 10/27/05 4:33 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Matt 10/27/05 3:43 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Shishka 10/27/05 4:00 p.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Frankie 10/27/05 4:06 p.m.
                       Careful Frankie, you're turning blue *NM*GryphonOsiris 10/27/05 5:12 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?mnemesis 10/27/05 4:08 p.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?SumSophisticatedName 10/27/05 4:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Louis Wu 10/27/05 5:51 p.m.
           Help me help youNarcogen 10/28/05 12:06 a.m.
                 Re: Help me help youBlackstar 10/28/05 2:40 a.m.
     Look, we're doing this all wrongJillybean 10/27/05 4:37 p.m.
           ... That will work in an odd sense...Jammerfer 10/27/05 4:53 p.m.
                 Re: ... That will work in an odd sense...Stefan Countryman 10/28/05 10:46 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Th3Tru7h 10/27/05 5:39 p.m.
           Ah, but I thought this wasn`t hollywood. *NM*Dundre 10/27/05 6:01 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?super collider 10/27/05 6:18 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Nick A. 10/27/05 6:31 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Rocky Heinz 10/27/05 6:48 p.m.
           Humpday Challenge: WETA vs. BungieStuicide 10/27/05 10:21 p.m.
                 Re: Humpday Challenge: WETA vs. BungieAngelicLionheart 10/27/05 10:56 p.m.
                       Re: Humpday Challenge: WETA vs. BungieStuicide 10/28/05 12:04 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?ThorsHammer 10/27/05 10:22 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?EvilREDRABBIT 10/28/05 12:26 a.m.
           Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not Hollywood.AngelicLionheart 10/28/05 12:45 a.m.
                 Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not HollywoodEvilREDRABBIT 10/28/05 1:55 a.m.
                       Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not HollywoodPeptuck 10/28/05 2:14 a.m.
                       Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not HollywoodAngelicLionheart 10/28/05 2:18 a.m.
                             Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not HollywoodStuntmutt 10/28/05 3:28 a.m.
                                   Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not Hollywooddogsounds [ subnova ] 10/28/05 4:15 a.m.
                                         Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not HollywoodStuntmutt 10/28/05 6:03 a.m.
                                               Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not Hollywooddogsounds [ subnova ] 10/28/05 7:27 a.m.
                                               There is something better than a pint....GryphonOsiris 10/28/05 4:11 p.m.
                                   Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not HollywoodNarcogen 10/28/05 11:14 a.m.
                                   Bungie calls the shots. It's their baby.AngelicLionheart 10/29/05 1:23 p.m.
                             Re: Worry not. Bungie is in control. Not HollywoodEvilREDRABBIT 10/28/05 5:00 p.m.
                                   Body Armor - My Anti-BulletAngelicLionheart 10/28/05 5:13 p.m.
                                         Re: Body Armor - My Anti-BulletEvilREDRABBIT 10/28/05 5:35 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Amechwarrior2 10/28/05 2:53 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Skandalon 10/28/05 3:02 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Ashy Larry 10/28/05 4:23 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stefan Countryman 10/28/05 11:24 a.m.
                 Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Ashy Larry 10/29/05 6:57 a.m.
                       Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stefan Countryman 10/29/05 7:55 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?UrsusArctos 10/28/05 6:44 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Vengeful Assassin 10/28/05 7:26 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stefan Countryman 10/28/05 11:32 a.m.
     Is the length of this thread, like, a record?RC Master 10/28/05 8:04 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Clayton Jones 10/28/05 8:51 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?mike miller 10/28/05 11:32 a.m.
     Have faith my fellow HaloitesRagnarok 10/28/05 2:27 p.m.
           Re: Have faith my fellow HaloitesStefan Countryman 10/28/05 2:59 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?XerxdeeJ 10/28/05 3:09 p.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Obsydian 10/28/05 4:13 p.m.
     Not like I can say anything that hasn't been saidEndbringer 10/28/05 4:29 p.m.
           Re: Not like I can say anything that hasn't been snialler 10/28/05 4:37 p.m.
     Louis, you attention whore.[JP] Pvt. Jenkins 10/28/05 8:25 p.m.
           Re: Louis, you attention whore.Count Zero 10/28/05 11:36 p.m.
                 Re: Louis, you attention whore.[JP] Pvt. Jenkins 10/29/05 1:18 a.m.
                       Re: Louis, you attention whore.Roland 10/29/05 4:24 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Simpsons Rule 10/28/05 11:56 p.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Wainamoinen 10/29/05 3:52 a.m.
           Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Wainamoinen 10/29/05 3:57 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?Stefan Countryman 10/29/05 8:06 a.m.
     Re: The Halo Movie - Who Will Act?kornman00 10/29/05 1:09 p.m.



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