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Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Raffle
Posted By: Louis Wu <halo@bungie.org>Date: 2/18/04 11:17 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Raffle (guy who doesn't post....too often)

: You know what? Your comments are uncalled for and inconsistent. I first
: suggested paypal as an alternate method of payment; You had no issue with
: this suggestion, even though I am interfering with the way the contest is
: "being run". You say, "You're not happy with the way the
: raffle's being run, don't
: participate ." but when I immediately suggest another payment option,
: you don't care. Why? Because it's a good friggin' idea!

Wha... what?

I had no issue with the idea of paypal... that's true. I think it's a fine idea.

What does that have to do with anything?

: So, that said, your personal opinion that 1 helmet is enough no matter what,
: differs from my personal opinion.

: I'm trying to suggest a way to make it better for everyone involved. You
: apparently don't agree with what I'm suggesting and it is certainly your
: right to think that way. BUT, you run a COMMUNITY, where people contribute
: in many facets. Also, this is a FORUM, where people discuss ideas and have
: conversations. He brought the news here, and I'm merely suggesting some
: ideas.

There's absolutely NOTHING WRONG with making suggestions.

The stupid part - the part that triggered my post - was this comment:

"If they don't have a helmets per entrants formula, I will make it my personal mission to gripe and bitch until they do."

That's stupid. Period. You make a suggestion - they listen to it. If they think it's good, they incorporate it. If they don't, they don't. Making it a personal mission to gripe and bitch until someone does what you want is stupid.

: It simply isn't ok to tell me it's all or nothing. You have no right to tell
: me I can't suggest a change, while already making it clear (by not
: commenting)that you didn't mind my other change suggestion.

See above.

: Louis Wu wrote: THERE WAS A SMILEY AFTER THE "Bitching and Griping"
: comment. You payed such close attention to the rest of the post, but not
: the smiley? Why be selective?

I didn't see the smiley. I suppose I judged the comment as consistent with your online persona, as it was... so the smiley didn't register. (And even if I HAD seen it, I think I wouldn't have believed it.)

Smileys don't absolve you of all responsibility when you make comments - ESPECIALLY when the rest of the post is totally serious. (I'd point you to a fantastic example of this from Miguel not too long ago, but it looks like it's been deleted... pity.)

Bottom line:

Paypal is a fine idea. (I don't think I ever said it wasn't, or suggested that since it came from you, it was no longer valid, but I guess I need to be clearer.)

Suggesting ideas for someone else's raffle is a fine thing to do. (Again, I don't think I ever said, or even implied, that it wasn't.)

DEMANDING that someone else conform to your idea of what's fair is stupid. (I don't think I've ever been inconsistent about this. I've felt this way all my life.)

Joking that you're going to do this, when it's something that's completely consistent with your normal behavior in other circumstances, is probably not the wisest thing to do. It's sort of a wolf-cry thing.

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Replies:

Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleWebshift 2/17/04 12:07 a.m.
     Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleCYBRFRK 2/17/04 12:08 a.m.
     Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleBlown-Upp 2/17/04 12:55 a.m.
     Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Rafflevshields ash 2/17/04 6:16 a.m.
     Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Raffleguy who doesn't post....too often 2/17/04 4:28 p.m.
           Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleSturmgewehr-58 2/17/04 5:34 p.m.
                 Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Raffle'Nosolee 2/17/04 6:07 p.m.
                 Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Raffleguy who doesn't post....too often 2/17/04 10:50 p.m.
                       Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleWebshift 2/17/04 11:32 p.m.
                       Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleSturmgewehr-58 2/18/04 12:26 a.m.
                             Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleLouis Wu 2/18/04 6:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Raffleguy who doesn't post....too often 2/18/04 10:56 a.m.
                                         Re: I'm not gonna get into this, but...Sep7imus [subnova] 2/18/04 11:04 a.m.
                                         Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleLouis Wu 2/18/04 11:17 a.m.
                                               Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet Raffleguy who doesn't post....too often 2/18/04 11:58 a.m.
                                                     Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleWebshift 2/18/04 12:20 p.m.
                                                           Re: Nightmare Armor...Helmet RaffleSturmgewehr-58 2/18/04 1:10 p.m.



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