Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone


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Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone

Posted By: Bob-B-Q Date: 2/11/12 8:43 p.m.
In Response To: Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone (Alric)

A few comments on the comments:
: The Walther P38 was designed and entered service in 1938:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P38
The important detail here is that it was adopted in 1938. Accounting for the time needed to standardize and distribute production documents and tooling, plus time needed to produce enough complete units and spare parts for general issue, it's not likely that many combat units could get the P38 in the same year it was approved.
For comparison my Swedish Mauser is of a pattern 'adopted' in 1896, but the earliest production specimens date to 1898.
: Calling it the Walther P4 is a mistake; the Walther P4 was a variant of the
: P38 that entered production in *the late 1970s*
Considering how obscure the P4 is to begin with, I wonder how Jones(?) even knew about it. Perhaps he was acquainted with someone who owned one?
: The MP-41 entered production in 1941, as can be inferred by its designation:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_40#Variants_and_developments
The MP41 was a rather rare item, and could be charitably described as the upper half of an MP40 mashed onto the lower half of an MP28. It never saw general issue with the German army, though SS and police units apparently used it, and production was discontinued after the owner of the MP40 patents sued for infringement. Even if Pathways were set circa 1942, the MP41 wouldn't be a likely choice.

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: A few comments on the comments: The important detail here is that it was : adopted in 1938. Accounting for the time needed to standardize and : distribute production documents and tooling, plus time needed to produce : enough complete units and spare parts for general issue, it's not likely : that many combat units could get the P38 in the same year it was approved. : For comparison my Swedish Mauser is of a pattern 'adopted' in 1896, but the : earliest production specimens date to 1898. : Considering how obscure the P4 is to begin with, I wonder how Jones(?) even : knew about it. Perhaps he was acquainted with someone who owned one? : The MP41 was a rather rare item, and could be charitably described as the : upper half of an MP40 mashed onto the lower half of an MP28. It never saw : general issue with the German army, though SS and police units apparently : used it, and production was discontinued after the owner of the MP40 : patents sued for infringement. Even if Pathways were set circa 1942, the : MP41 wouldn't be a likely choice.

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I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone LINK	Earthtopus	2/8/12 8:43 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/8/12 11:48 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	poena.dare	2/9/12 2:01 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/9/12 6:31 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Earthtopus	2/9/12 1:56 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/9/12 2:10 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/9/12 9:51 a.m.
some say the world will end in fire.	Earthtopus	2/9/12 10:17 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone LINK	Godot	2/9/12 10:37 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/9/12 11:15 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/9/12 12:32 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	MrM12LRV	2/9/12 1:11 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/9/12 2:07 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Earthtopus	2/9/12 3:02 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/9/12 11:41 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	MrM12LRV	2/9/12 3:59 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/9/12 4:00 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Earthtopus	2/9/12 4:05 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/9/12 11:43 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/10/12 9:23 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Earthtopus	2/10/12 1:53 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/11/12 2:27 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/11/12 9:26 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/11/12 9:48 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Alric	2/11/12 6:13 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/11/12 8:43 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Alric	2/12/12 7:12 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/12/12 8:14 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Alric	2/12/12 1:29 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/12/12 4:40 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Earthtopus	2/12/12 5:10 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone LINK	Bob-B-Q	2/12/12 8:16 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/12/12 9:30 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/13/12 9:30 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/13/12 9:45 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Godot	2/13/12 9:48 a.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Bob-B-Q	2/13/12 6:48 p.m.
Conspiracy!	Earthtopus	2/13/12 11:16 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Alric	2/11/12 5:53 p.m.
Re: Snowden	poena.dare	2/9/12 6:40 p.m.
Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone	Jabberwok	2/11/12 12:16 a.m.



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