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Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone
Posted By: GodotDate: 2/11/12 2:27 a.m.

In Response To: Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone (Bob-B-Q)

: Some more thoughts while I'm at it: The P4's parent design, the Walther P38,
: would not have been available to a unit operating overseas in 1938. The
: Germans in the pyramid should have the Luger P08, which would be
: functionally interchangeable for gameplay purposes.

: The MP38 probably wouldn't have been available to Muller's unit either. They
: would most likely be using the Schmeisser MP18 or MP28, unless Muller knew
: or suspected enough about the pyramid's probable dangers to procure better
: submachine guns from foreign sources. Something like the Suomi KP/-31
: would suit his mission well.

: Assuming a realistic table of equipment, the rank-and-file Germans would
: carry the Karabiner 98k rifle and not use submachine guns at all. Could
: have made for some interesting twists in gameplay, had the K98 been
: implemented.

: The use of the AK-47/AKM by the Cubans is plausible, though given the
: likelihood that they made a private expedition with weapons procured
: illicitly, older Soviet weapons like the SKS carbine could also be
: expected. Since at least some of them knew they were looking for something
: dangerous, they could have also tried to obtain more powerful G3 rifles
: from police or military sources once they were in Mexico.

: As my Usenet predecessor pointed out, the player's squadmates should be using
: the Beretta M9 pistol and the M203 grenade launcher. A working M203
: attached to a broken M16 would have been functionally equivalent in-game.

: Instead of having all the M16s suffer from mysteriously bent barrels, perhaps
: there could have been a minigame or side quest to assemble a working M16
: from salvaged parts of the damaged ones. The M16A2's limitation to firing
: in three round bursts could serve to balance it with the Cubans'
: Kalashnikovs.

Thanks for this. While I don't want to turn this into a Wiki, do you have any references for these statements? Basically what you are saying (as have others) that Jason Jones got all/most of the weapons wrong in PID. He either didn't do his homework or didn't care.. Before we get hammered by the fanbois we need to substantiate these statements.

Cheers
Hamish

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I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone *LINK*Earthtopus 2/8/12 8:43 p.m.
     Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/8/12 11:48 p.m.
     Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zonepoena.dare 2/9/12 2:01 a.m.
           Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/9/12 6:31 a.m.
                 Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneEarthtopus 2/9/12 1:56 p.m.
                       Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/9/12 2:10 p.m.
     Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/9/12 9:51 a.m.
           some say the world will end in fire.Earthtopus 2/9/12 10:17 a.m.
           Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone *LINK*Godot 2/9/12 10:37 a.m.
                 Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/9/12 11:15 a.m.
                       Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/9/12 12:32 p.m.
                             Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneMrM12LRV 2/9/12 1:11 p.m.
                                   Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/9/12 2:07 p.m.
                                         Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneEarthtopus 2/9/12 3:02 p.m.
                                               Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/9/12 11:41 p.m.
                                         Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneMrM12LRV 2/9/12 3:59 p.m.
                             Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/9/12 4:00 p.m.
                                   Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneEarthtopus 2/9/12 4:05 p.m.
                                   Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/9/12 11:43 p.m.
                                         Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/10/12 9:23 a.m.
                                               Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneEarthtopus 2/10/12 1:53 p.m.
                                               Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/11/12 2:27 a.m.
                                                     Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/11/12 9:26 a.m.
                                                           Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/11/12 9:48 a.m.
                                                                 Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneAlric 2/11/12 6:13 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/11/12 8:43 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneAlric 2/12/12 7:12 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/12/12 8:14 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneAlric 2/12/12 1:29 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/12/12 4:40 a.m.
                                                                             Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneEarthtopus 2/12/12 5:10 a.m.
                                                                             Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake Zone *LINK*Bob-B-Q 2/12/12 8:16 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/12/12 9:30 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneBob-B-Q 2/13/12 9:30 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/13/12 9:45 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneGodot 2/13/12 9:48 a.m.
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                                                                                                           Conspiracy!Earthtopus 2/13/12 11:16 p.m.
                                   Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneAlric 2/11/12 5:53 p.m.
                 Re: Snowdenpoena.dare 2/9/12 6:40 p.m.
           Re: I'd Rather Be Surfing, Warning Earthquake ZoneJabberwok 2/11/12 12:16 a.m.

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