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Posted By: Scumbag Date: 7/13/04 9:53 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Oh, and some other things (Forrest of B.org)

:The technology is only 'backwards' to someone new to the field who does not appreciate where the modern games he loves come from and the rich history behind them.
What kind of nonsense is this? "You don't like horribly outdated graphics, you must be a newb gamer"?
2D sprites are backward. Unnacceptable, in this day and age, for me. A few years ago, ok, I might have tolerable of them. Heck, I played ROTT a while back.
:(in a non-quantitative way)
Non-quantitive = irrelevent. Lots of people use non-quantitive things (like telling me System Shock 2 is a good game, hah) to explain away a complete lack of sales.
:Only to a newcomer to the field who doesn't appreciate what came before his favorite games and the rich history of videogaming
Is *that* all you have? Claim I'm a "newcomer to the field"?
I've played computer games for quite a long time. But unlike some, when something new and better comes along, I have no problems with labeling what came before as inferior. Nostalgia or for those who can't - or won't - move on.
:Marathon introduced a whole slew of the new things it introduced to gaming that much later hit the mainstream
Whoop-de-doo. Its irrelevent who made something first. Only who made something that grabbed the audience for the first time. Does the common consumer think of Marathon when he or she thinks of dual wielding? Non-deathmatch multiplayer? co-op play?
Rise of the Triad had Jump Pads before any other game. Nobody remembers ROTT.
:And the of course there's the biggest point of this whole message, that sales alone, or graphics alone, or any one variable alone does not make a game on the whole better or worse than any other.
Commercial products. Commercial judgement critera. Anything else is silly.
:if you're still willing to give the game a shot.
I fought the controls for 10 levels, discovered nothing I didn't know from reading the Terminals and the Marathon Story Page. There's no reason to. Realizing the game was old enough that it wouldn't have anything I can miss (like cutscenes or like) tends to discourage someone. Asked a question about the only thing I had, got into a flamewar because, while interesting, Marathon doesn't suit me. God forbid.

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Marathon standard I'm confused about Scumbag 7/10/04 11:00 a.m.

Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about Bob-B-Q 7/10/04 1:19 p.m.

Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about Forrest of B.org 7/10/04 1:23 p.m.

Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about Joshua Bell 7/10/04 1:26 p.m.

Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about ukimalefu 7/10/04 9:25 p.m.

Actually... Scumbag 7/11/04 9:28 p.m.

Re: Actually... Johannes Gunnar 7/12/04 6:15 a.m.

Re: Actually... Steve Levinson 7/12/04 9:07 a.m.

Re: Actually... Yossarian 7/12/04 9:12 a.m.

Re: Actually... Steve Levinson 7/12/04 10:12 a.m.

Re: Actually... •M 7/12/04 12:28 p.m.

Re: Actually... Forrest of B.org 7/12/04 10:07 p.m.

Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about Andrew Nagy 7/13/04 11:04 a.m.

Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about Johannes Gunnar 7/13/04 2:19 p.m.

Response to everyone above Scumbag 7/13/04 4:21 p.m.

Oh, and some other things Scumbag 7/13/04 4:24 p.m.

You done it now... *NM* deathmonger 7/13/04 5:14 p.m.

Re: You done it now... Andrew Nagy 7/13/04 5:37 p.m.

NO POINT, I said. *NM* Andrew Nagy 7/14/04 7:24 a.m.

I agree, but who are you to ORDER us not to reply? *NM* Steve Levinson 7/14/04 8:10 a.m.

I'm Rick James, biotch. *NM* Andrew Nagy 7/14/04 9:02 a.m.

Re: I'm Rick James, biotch. Mark Levin 7/14/04 9:39 a.m.

Well, no. *NM* Andrew Nagy 7/14/04 10:26 a.m.

Re: I'm Rick James, biotch. Andrew Nagy 8/5/04 8:24 p.m.

Re: Oh, and some other things Forrest of B.org 7/13/04 5:53 p.m.

Too busy to quote everyone in different posts Scumbag 7/13/04 9:53 p.m.

Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts HolyMcGibblets 7/13/04 10:20 p.m.

Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts Forrest of B.org 7/14/04 7:49 a.m.

Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts HolyMcGibblets 7/14/04 1:40 p.m.

Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts Count Zero 7/13/04 10:54 p.m.

Let's give this guy a break, but watch your words Steve Levinson 7/14/04 8:27 a.m.

More pointless flames against Scumbag; ignore *NM* Andrew Nagy 7/14/04 8:56 a.m.

Another question Andrew Nagy 7/14/04 9:12 a.m.

Marathon: Resurrection! *NM* Andrew Nagy 7/15/04 2:09 a.m.

Just to clarify the numbers game Steve Levinson 7/13/04 5:57 p.m.

Re: Oh, and some other things Syngekhoomei 7/13/04 9:02 p.m.

Re: Oh, and some other things ukimalefu 7/14/04 1:04 a.m.

Re: Oh, and some other things Johannes Gunnar 7/14/04 4:54 a.m.

Re: Oh, and some other things Lt Devon 7/15/04 4:57 p.m.

Re: Oh, and some other things Simon of team Sigma 7/15/04 6:05 p.m.

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: What kind of nonsense is this? "You don't like horribly outdated : graphics, you must be a newb gamer"? : 2D sprites are backward. Unnacceptable, in this day and age, for me. A few : years ago, ok, I might have tolerable of them. Heck, I played ROTT a while : back. : Non-quantitive = irrelevent. Lots of people use non-quantitive things (like : telling me System Shock 2 is a good game, hah) to explain away a complete : lack of sales. : Is *that* all you have? Claim I'm a "newcomer to the field"? : I've played computer games for quite a long time. But unlike some, when : something new and better comes along, I have no problems with labeling : what came before as inferior. Nostalgia or for those who can't - or won't : - move on. : Whoop-de-doo. Its irrelevent who made something first. Only who made : something that grabbed the audience for the first time. Does the common : consumer think of Marathon when he or she thinks of dual wielding? : Non-deathmatch multiplayer? co-op play? : Rise of the Triad had Jump Pads before any other game. Nobody remembers ROTT. : Commercial products. Commercial judgement critera. Anything else is silly. : I fought the controls for 10 levels, discovered nothing I didn't know from : reading the Terminals and the Marathon Story Page. There's no reason to. : Realizing the game was old enough that it wouldn't have anything I can : miss (like cutscenes or like) tends to discourage someone. Asked a : question about the only thing I had, got into a flamewar because, while : interesting, Marathon doesn't suit me. God forbid.

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Marathon standard I'm confused about	Scumbag	7/10/04 11:00 a.m.
Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about	Bob-B-Q	7/10/04 1:19 p.m.
Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about	Forrest of B.org	7/10/04 1:23 p.m.
Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about	Joshua Bell	7/10/04 1:26 p.m.
Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about	ukimalefu	7/10/04 9:25 p.m.
Actually...	Scumbag	7/11/04 9:28 p.m.
Re: Actually...	Johannes Gunnar	7/12/04 6:15 a.m.
Re: Actually...	Steve Levinson	7/12/04 9:07 a.m.
Re: Actually...	Yossarian	7/12/04 9:12 a.m.
Re: Actually...	Steve Levinson	7/12/04 10:12 a.m.
Re: Actually...	•M	7/12/04 12:28 p.m.
Re: Actually...	Forrest of B.org	7/12/04 10:07 p.m.
Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about	Andrew Nagy	7/13/04 11:04 a.m.
Re: Marathon standard I'm confused about	Johannes Gunnar	7/13/04 2:19 p.m.
Response to everyone above	Scumbag	7/13/04 4:21 p.m.
Oh, and some other things	Scumbag	7/13/04 4:24 p.m.
You done it now... NM	deathmonger	7/13/04 5:14 p.m.
Re: You done it now...	Andrew Nagy	7/13/04 5:37 p.m.
NO POINT, I said. NM	Andrew Nagy	7/14/04 7:24 a.m.
I agree, but who are you to ORDER us not to reply? NM	Steve Levinson	7/14/04 8:10 a.m.
I'm Rick James, biotch. NM	Andrew Nagy	7/14/04 9:02 a.m.
Re: I'm Rick James, biotch.	Mark Levin	7/14/04 9:39 a.m.
Well, no. NM	Andrew Nagy	7/14/04 10:26 a.m.
Re: I'm Rick James, biotch.	Andrew Nagy	8/5/04 8:24 p.m.
Re: Oh, and some other things	Forrest of B.org	7/13/04 5:53 p.m.
Too busy to quote everyone in different posts	Scumbag	7/13/04 9:53 p.m.
Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts	HolyMcGibblets	7/13/04 10:20 p.m.
Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts	Forrest of B.org	7/14/04 7:49 a.m.
Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts	HolyMcGibblets	7/14/04 1:40 p.m.
Re: Too busy to quote everyone in different posts	Count Zero	7/13/04 10:54 p.m.
Let's give this guy a break, but watch your words	Steve Levinson	7/14/04 8:27 a.m.
More pointless flames against Scumbag; ignore NM	Andrew Nagy	7/14/04 8:56 a.m.
Another question	Andrew Nagy	7/14/04 9:12 a.m.
Marathon: Resurrection! NM	Andrew Nagy	7/15/04 2:09 a.m.
Just to clarify the numbers game	Steve Levinson	7/13/04 5:57 p.m.
Re: Oh, and some other things	Syngekhoomei	7/13/04 9:02 p.m.
Re: Oh, and some other things	ukimalefu	7/14/04 1:04 a.m.
Re: Oh, and some other things	Johannes Gunnar	7/14/04 4:54 a.m.
Re: Oh, and some other things	Lt Devon	7/15/04 4:57 p.m.
Re: Oh, and some other things	Simon of team Sigma	7/15/04 6:05 p.m.



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