Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?


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Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?

Posted By: Cheerful Date: 5/14/04 8:41 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea? (Yossarian)

Thanks for the insight/feedback.
: Not only unlikely but impossible. I always got the impression that the UESC
: was very much outnumbered during the war; this would explain why they went
: for the headshot by taking Pfhor Prime. Er, did this actually happen in
: the trilogy or do I still have Rubicon on the brain?
As far as I remember the exact mechanices of the Pfhor's downfall were never touched on in the trilogy proper. I haven't played Rubicon yet, so I can't comment on that.
: Additionally, why bury an otherwise perfectly good Empire when you can usurp
: it, a la the barbarians with Rome. Or, if you did want the Pfhor to die
: off or become weaker, simply let them splinter and fight each other for
: power.
: Yes, this is the basis for my next big steaming piece of fanfic, I actually
: need to work on it some more...I've got a lot of writing to do this
: weekend.
: I tend to think the individual Pfhor were only as independent thinking as the
: HC would allow or could afford.
Still, the fact that the Pfhor could follow individual interests, such as the aforementioned F'lickta or Nar, suggests they have a fair capability for individual thinking. Perhaps the lower ranks had more opportunity for this. They were numerous and unimportant enough that they were not monitored as closely.
: Yes, another example would be the enforcers. So perhaps it is two part; the
: glands validate authority while the enforces see to the excution of its
: will. It's also possible that the captain's glands were necessary to
: access the ship's control systems; a pheremonal fingerprint of some sort,
: otherwise Tycho would have tad to tie it to a defense drone and force it
: to float about the ship, much like you would a steak to an ugly childs
: face so that the dog might play with him.
: I agree, and the Rubicon team's spin on this was that the Empire fragmented
: as warlords, former slaves, and former commanders tried to fill the power
: vacuum. As the Empire collapsed downwards through the bureaucracy, those
: that were able to maintain the command structure beneath them were at the
: head of power.
This does make more sense. However I'm imagining the HC's destruction as having a more apocalyptic effect: Pfhor going insane, committing mass suicide etc. Still, given the size of their empire there would be quite a lot of them. That said, the survivors on the Pfhor homeworld would have been pushed onto the planet the humans set aside for them in my concept (Pfhor Secundus?). Others would become petty warlords or pirates. Also, quite a lot would probably be massacred by their slaves.
: I think this was the original idea behind Pfhorathon, to play as a fighter.
: How far that scenario is and how much play we might see as a Pfhor is
: anyone's guess.
Is Pfhorathon still actively being developed?
: A lot of good scenario ideas out there could make some really good fan
: fiction, and some of them are actually probably better suited for that. I
: think that by writing you're creating the outline and structure as you go,
: and in the end you can decide if you really have enough content to form it
: into something more substantial like an actual scenario.
: Again, this would be difficult seeing as how the Pfhor Empire was just
: gigantic, all the Pfhor probably wouldn't fint on one planet...
: Some of this, if not a lot of it, will come into form and into play in the
: Scenario idea we've been throwing around that will begin development after
: the completion of Eternal. Manus Celer Dei will go into great detail
: concerning the history of the future after the Pfhor lose the war.
I look forward to seeing your interpretation. Thanks again.

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: Thanks for the insight/feedback. : As far as I remember the exact mechanices of the Pfhor's downfall were never : touched on in the trilogy proper. I haven't played Rubicon yet, so I can't : comment on that. : Still, the fact that the Pfhor could follow individual interests, such as the : aforementioned F'lickta or Nar, suggests they have a fair capability for : individual thinking. Perhaps the lower ranks had more opportunity for : this. They were numerous and unimportant enough that they were not : monitored as closely. : This does make more sense. However I'm imagining the HC's destruction as : having a more apocalyptic effect: Pfhor going insane, committing mass : suicide etc. Still, given the size of their empire there would be quite a : lot of them. That said, the survivors on the Pfhor homeworld would have : been pushed onto the planet the humans set aside for them in my concept : (Pfhor Secundus?). Others would become petty warlords or pirates. Also, : quite a lot would probably be massacred by their slaves. : Is Pfhorathon still actively being developed? : I look forward to seeing your interpretation. Thanks again.

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Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Cheerful	5/14/04 3:38 p.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Forrest of B.org	5/14/04 3:55 p.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Forrest of B.org	5/14/04 4:01 p.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Yossarian	5/14/04 5:48 p.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Cheerful	5/14/04 8:41 p.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Steve Levinson	5/17/04 5:51 a.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Mista_B	5/17/04 7:10 a.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Cheerful	5/17/04 11:58 a.m.
Re: Story Discussion and maybe a scenario idea?	Forrest of B.org	5/15/04 12:27 p.m.
Re: Another theory about the Pfhor	Cheerful	5/15/04 9:31 p.m.
Re: Another theory about the Pfhor	Forrest of B.org	5/16/04 8:17 p.m.
Re: Another theory about the Pfhor	Porky	5/19/04 4:24 a.m.



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