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Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah...

Posted By: Ernie Date: 4/12/04 1:30 p.m.
In Response To: Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare (Mark Levin)

: It's the terminal on Can you Say Mosh Pit.
: I also believed that you were the Marathon Marine, until I looked ahead at
: some of the terminals while preparing for this run. More on this later :P
: Yes, I believe they are W'rkncacnters.
Really? I was under the impression that they were corrupted, former Jjaro. Their appearance as vaguely Pfhor like I discounted as perhaps their source race. Jjaro, I believe is less an genetic race, but a collective of beings. Or, failing that, Ian just thought the Three-eyed look was neat. : )

I don't recall where this is mentioned in the Trilogy, but if (when) the Marine escapes this universe, he too would become 'Jjaro'.
I disagree with the analysis that the brother are W'rkncacnters, unless Ian has explicitly said so. Even then, I'd believe that Ian made an error in his judgment calling them that. W'rkncacnters are beings of chaos, sleeping gods, if existing in our universe (that once awakened) unleash chaos, intentionally or otherwise.
The brother, while wreaking havoc, seem - well - a little small time for W'rkncacnter.
The prospect of their existence being Jjaro (who, assuming they once had bipedal, biological forms) I find far more juicy from an storyline perspective.
From here on in, I'll launch into some extended Mara-verse prospects:
Look at Forrest's idea that The Jjaro (Forerunners?) constructed Halo installations to prevent an biological threat long ago that could animate living and dead matter - the Flood in the Halo/UNSC time line serves this purpose in the outline for M:Eternal.
Although Forrest seems reluctant to totally separate the Halo and Marathon universes, (although there are some very real time line conflicts) I earlier proposed an modification on his theroy:
Perhaps *similar* circumstances occurred in the Marathon universe:
-a biological threat was posed to the Jjaro
- the threat forced them to eschew biological form, with help of Nanomachines, etc.
-they constructed installations to contain/destroy the threat
However, in the Marathon time line, the Flood didn't exist. Perhaps it was these "Organics", however they came into being, serving as this threat.
If they were created by an Jjaro (Possibly Joshua, lord of Organics?) they infected him for whatever reason - now he seeks whatever his goals are. We'll find out later in the RED volunteers series.
His 'brother', lord of the Metalloids, was perhaps also part of the Jjaro sub races - although overtaken for whatever reason by nanomachines the Jjaro created (eschewing Organic form) as a step towards their Cybernetic existence - and eventual escape from the universe.
Now, this is going out on a very thin line of the extended Marathon-universe. Since the Trilogy has been analyzed to death, it's interesting to forge connections in the extended realm which I traverse. You know, for kicks.
Back to you Mark. : )
-Blayne [ernie]

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RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare Mark Levin 4/12/04 10:54 a.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare Dr. John Sumner 4/12/04 11:35 a.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare Dr. John Sumner 4/12/04 11:48 a.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare Steve Levinson 4/12/04 12:04 p.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare Dr. John Sumner 4/12/04 12:09 p.m.

I know exactly what you did - very cleaver! *NM* Steve Levinson 4/12/04 12:50 p.m.

As in: Ward, June, Wally, and Beaver? *NM* Yossarian 4/12/04 3:13 p.m.

Are you moking my speling? *NM* Steve Levinson 4/14/04 5:09 a.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare Mark Levin 4/12/04 12:20 p.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare rampancy 4/12/04 12:09 p.m.

Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare Mark Levin 4/12/04 12:26 p.m.

Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah... Ernie 4/12/04 1:30 p.m.

Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah... Mark Levin 4/12/04 2:04 p.m.

Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah... rampancy 4/12/04 2:08 p.m.

Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah... Forrest of B.org 4/13/04 8:21 p.m.

Whatever, you don't mess with THE W'rkncacnter *NM* ukimalefu 4/13/04 9:14 p.m.

Re: Whatever, you don't mess with THE W'rkncacnter Forrest of B.org 4/14/04 6:36 a.m.

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: Really? I was under the impression that they were corrupted, former Jjaro. : Their appearance as vaguely Pfhor like I discounted as perhaps their : source race. Jjaro, I believe is less an genetic race, but a collective of : beings. Or, failing that, Ian just thought the Three-eyed look was neat. : : ) : : I don't recall where this is mentioned in the Trilogy, but if (when) the : Marine escapes this universe, he too would become 'Jjaro'. : I disagree with the analysis that the brother are W'rkncacnters, unless Ian : has explicitly said so. Even then , I'd believe that Ian made an error in : his judgment calling them that. W'rkncacnters are beings of chaos, : sleeping gods, if existing in our universe (that once awakened) unleash : chaos, intentionally or otherwise. : The brother, while wreaking havoc, seem - well - a little small time for : W'rkncacnter. : The prospect of their existence being Jjaro (who, assuming they once had : bipedal, biological forms) I find far more juicy from an storyline : perspective. : From here on in, I'll launch into some extended Mara-verse prospects: Look at : Forrest's idea that The Jjaro (Forerunners?) constructed Halo : installations to prevent an biological threat long ago that could animate : living and dead matter - the Flood in the Halo/UNSC time line serves this : purpose in the outline for M:Eternal. : Although Forrest seems reluctant to totally separate the Halo and Marathon : universes, (although there are some very real time line conflicts) I : earlier proposed an modification on his theroy: Perhaps *similar* : circumstances occurred in the Marathon universe: -a biological threat was : posed to the Jjaro : - the threat forced them to eschew biological form, with help of : Nanomachines, etc. : -they constructed installations to contain/destroy the threat : However, in the Marathon time line, the Flood didn't exist. Perhaps it was : these "Organics", however they came into being, serving as this : threat. : If they were created by an Jjaro (Possibly Joshua, lord of Organics?) they : infected him for whatever reason - now he seeks whatever his goals are. : We'll find out later in the RED volunteers series. : His 'brother', lord of the Metalloids, was perhaps also part of the Jjaro sub : races - although overtaken for whatever reason by nanomachines the Jjaro : created (eschewing Organic form) as a step towards their Cybernetic : existence - and eventual escape from the universe. : Now, this is going out on a very thin line of the extended Marathon-universe. : Since the Trilogy has been analyzed to death, it's interesting to forge : connections in the extended realm which I traverse. You know, for kicks . : Back to you Mark. : ) : -Blayne [ernie]

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	Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah...
	Posted By: Ernie	Date: 4/12/04 1:30 p.m.
	In Response To: Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare (Mark Levin) : It's the terminal on Can you Say Mosh Pit. : I also believed that you were the Marathon Marine, until I looked ahead at : some of the terminals while preparing for this run. More on this later :P : Yes, I believe they are W'rkncacnters. Really? I was under the impression that they were corrupted, former Jjaro. Their appearance as vaguely Pfhor like I discounted as perhaps their source race. Jjaro, I believe is less an genetic race, but a collective of beings. Or, failing that, Ian just thought the Three-eyed look was neat. : ) I don't recall where this is mentioned in the Trilogy, but if (when) the Marine escapes this universe, he too would become 'Jjaro'. I disagree with the analysis that the brother are W'rkncacnters, unless Ian has explicitly said so. Even then, I'd believe that Ian made an error in his judgment calling them that. W'rkncacnters are beings of chaos, sleeping gods, if existing in our universe (that once awakened) unleash chaos, intentionally or otherwise. The brother, while wreaking havoc, seem - well - a little small time for W'rkncacnter. The prospect of their existence being Jjaro (who, assuming they once had bipedal, biological forms) I find far more juicy from an storyline perspective. From here on in, I'll launch into some extended Mara-verse prospects: Look at Forrest's idea that The Jjaro (Forerunners?) constructed Halo installations to prevent an biological threat long ago that could animate living and dead matter - the Flood in the Halo/UNSC time line serves this purpose in the outline for M:Eternal. Although Forrest seems reluctant to totally separate the Halo and Marathon universes, (although there are some very real time line conflicts) I earlier proposed an modification on his theroy: Perhaps similar circumstances occurred in the Marathon universe: -a biological threat was posed to the Jjaro - the threat forced them to eschew biological form, with help of Nanomachines, etc. -they constructed installations to contain/destroy the threat However, in the Marathon time line, the Flood didn't exist. Perhaps it was these "Organics", however they came into being, serving as this threat. If they were created by an Jjaro (Possibly Joshua, lord of Organics?) they infected him for whatever reason - now he seeks whatever his goals are. We'll find out later in the RED volunteers series. His 'brother', lord of the Metalloids, was perhaps also part of the Jjaro sub races - although overtaken for whatever reason by nanomachines the Jjaro created (eschewing Organic form) as a step towards their Cybernetic existence - and eventual escape from the universe. Now, this is going out on a very thin line of the extended Marathon-universe. Since the Trilogy has been analyzed to death, it's interesting to forge connections in the extended realm which I traverse. You know, for kicks. Back to you Mark. : ) -Blayne [ernie]

RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	Mark Levin	4/12/04 10:54 a.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	Dr. John Sumner	4/12/04 11:35 a.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	Dr. John Sumner	4/12/04 11:48 a.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	Steve Levinson	4/12/04 12:04 p.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	Dr. John Sumner	4/12/04 12:09 p.m.
I know exactly what you did - very cleaver! NM	Steve Levinson	4/12/04 12:50 p.m.
As in: Ward, June, Wally, and Beaver? NM	Yossarian	4/12/04 3:13 p.m.
Are you moking my speling? NM	Steve Levinson	4/14/04 5:09 a.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	Mark Levin	4/12/04 12:20 p.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	rampancy	4/12/04 12:09 p.m.
Re: RED Volunteers: Jägermeister's Nightmare	Mark Levin	4/12/04 12:26 p.m.
Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah...	Ernie	4/12/04 1:30 p.m.
Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah...	Mark Levin	4/12/04 2:04 p.m.
Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah...	rampancy	4/12/04 2:08 p.m.
Re: Brothers W'rkncacnters? Ah...	Forrest of B.org	4/13/04 8:21 p.m.
Whatever, you don't mess with THE W'rkncacnter NM	ukimalefu	4/13/04 9:14 p.m.
Re: Whatever, you don't mess with THE W'rkncacnter	Forrest of B.org	4/14/04 6:36 a.m.



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	Message: : Really? I was under the impression that they were corrupted, former Jjaro. : Their appearance as vaguely Pfhor like I discounted as perhaps their : source race. Jjaro, I believe is less an genetic race, but a collective of : beings. Or, failing that, Ian just thought the Three-eyed look was neat. : : ) : : I don't recall where this is mentioned in the Trilogy, but if (when) the : Marine escapes this universe, he too would become 'Jjaro'. : I disagree with the analysis that the brother are W'rkncacnters, unless Ian : has explicitly said so. Even then , I'd believe that Ian made an error in : his judgment calling them that. W'rkncacnters are beings of chaos, : sleeping gods, if existing in our universe (that once awakened) unleash : chaos, intentionally or otherwise. : The brother, while wreaking havoc, seem - well - a little small time for : W'rkncacnter. : The prospect of their existence being Jjaro (who, assuming they once had : bipedal, biological forms) I find far more juicy from an storyline : perspective. : From here on in, I'll launch into some extended Mara-verse prospects: Look at : Forrest's idea that The Jjaro (Forerunners?) constructed Halo : installations to prevent an biological threat long ago that could animate : living and dead matter - the Flood in the Halo/UNSC time line serves this : purpose in the outline for M:Eternal. : Although Forrest seems reluctant to totally separate the Halo and Marathon : universes, (although there are some very real time line conflicts) I : earlier proposed an modification on his theroy: Perhaps similar : circumstances occurred in the Marathon universe: -a biological threat was : posed to the Jjaro : - the threat forced them to eschew biological form, with help of : Nanomachines, etc. : -they constructed installations to contain/destroy the threat : However, in the Marathon time line, the Flood didn't exist. Perhaps it was : these "Organics", however they came into being, serving as this : threat. : If they were created by an Jjaro (Possibly Joshua, lord of Organics?) they : infected him for whatever reason - now he seeks whatever his goals are. : We'll find out later in the RED volunteers series. : His 'brother', lord of the Metalloids, was perhaps also part of the Jjaro sub : races - although overtaken for whatever reason by nanomachines the Jjaro : created (eschewing Organic form) as a step towards their Cybernetic : existence - and eventual escape from the universe. : Now, this is going out on a very thin line of the extended Marathon-universe. : Since the Trilogy has been analyzed to death, it's interesting to forge : connections in the extended realm which I traverse. You know, for kicks . : Back to you Mark. : ) : -Blayne [ernie]
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