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Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?
Posted By: Lion O CyborgDate: 9/16/20 3:59 a.m.

In Response To: Re: how many people still use keyboard controls? *LINK* (Aaron Freed)

: You could say that.

: Iíll put it this way: Before 1.3 beta 3, I found the mouse almost unusable.
: Itís extremely smooth now, though.

: Just make sure you reduce your mouse sensitivity settings. A lot. I have them
: both at 0.25 and I sometimes think it still might be too high.

: This isnít the only major fix in 1.3.1 that makes it worth upgrading, by the
: way: thereís finally a 64-bit Windows build (if youíre on 64-bit Windows,
: go to the Aleph One Releases Page below and get the
: ďAlephOne-20200904-Win64.zipĒ download), which means that the issues most
: players had with Eternal 1.2 should be completely gone (unless theyíre
: still on 32-bit Windows for who knows what reason); itís got some big
: improvements to the rendering engine; itís got a fix for a nasty bug that
: caused the game to freeze if you played 15 levels in a row without dying,
: which finally makes it practical to develop a Maratroidvania (it may never
: be finished, since RyokoTK seems to have 4GOTTEN again, but Echoes of the
: Ashen shows us whatís possible: https://youtu.be/zjvbhDb-Hss ); much
: better controls for music and sound effect volume; support for Marathon 1
: scenarios like Trojan; and quite a few other features.

: At this point, I may even drop support of 1.2.1 for future releases of games
: I develop, precisely because weíre likely to go at least partially into
: Maratroidvania territory for a few of them (Where Monsters Are in Dreams
: is likely to use this for a few levels, and Iím planning to use it for
: most of the second half of Chronicles). For the Tempus revamp, we may
: elect to specifically require 1.3.1, since it fixes the glow map
: wobble/pulsate on floors and ceilings, which will enable us to use our
: revamped teleporter texture with the same pulsate effect it had in the
: original releases without it looking colossally stupid.

: In any case, on the whole, unless thereís some major reason not to, itís
: generally advisable to use the latest stable releases of software, since
: it usually contains significant bug fixes, some of which can patch major
: security holes. (As an example, I used 1.3.0 to render some old Aleph One
: speedruns of M1, because one of its bugs results in it providing the
: correct timing for speedrun purposes, at the cost of using the wrong
: engine and thus introducing possible film desync in a few levels for which
: there werenít any speedrun videos to render. This was a bug that was
: obviously worth fixing, but for the specific purpose of rendering old
: speedrun videos, it was fortuitous that it existed.)

: In this case, Aleph One didnít have any major security holes of which Iím
: aware, which makes upgrading less urgent, but other developers may make
: similar choices to mine in the future and stop supporting pre-1.3
: releases. AFAIK, mods in some other FPS communities almost always specify
: the latest version of the game as a requirement. I donít think this is a
: bad policy.

: tl;dr: Yes, upgrade now, the mouse is way better, and so is a ton of other
: stuff. The feature list of each release is at the link below, and Iíd
: recommend just getting 1.3.1 immediately, and specifically the
: ďAlephOne-20200904-Win64.zipĒ build if youíre running 64-bit Windows.

I didn't mention this in my earlier posts but I actually had trouble using the mouse in Marathon at first too, also because I had to fiddle with the settings so the sensitivity was just right and it didn't feel floaty. Some of the older builds had different sliders for horizontal & vertical, plus the average speeds for each seemed a little off, such as vertical being slower than horizontal if the sensitivity setting numbers matched on both sliders, instead of all being equal speed like it should.

I've sometimes had that issue in other games too. The mouse upgrades in the new version are a great addition though alongside the other stuff. :)

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how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/9/20 1:12 p.m.
     Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Forrest of B.org 9/9/20 1:33 p.m.
           :D *NM*Jabberwok 9/9/20 1:38 p.m.
     Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Bob-B-Q 9/9/20 1:58 p.m.
           Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/9/20 3:20 p.m.
     Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Lion O Cyborg 9/10/20 10:28 a.m.
           Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/10/20 12:27 p.m.
                 Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Lion O Cyborg 9/10/20 1:12 p.m.
                       Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/10/20 2:14 p.m.
                             Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?VikingBoyBilly 9/21/20 2:56 a.m.
                 Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?treellama 9/11/20 10:26 a.m.
                       Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/11/20 11:59 a.m.
                             Re: how many people still use keyboard controls? *LINK*Aaron Freed 9/11/20 12:32 p.m.
                                   Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/11/20 1:47 p.m.
                                   Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?helviusrufus 9/15/20 1:13 p.m.
                                   Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Lion O Cyborg 9/16/20 3:59 a.m.
                                         Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?treellama 9/16/20 6:47 a.m.
                                               Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?ukimalefu 9/16/20 9:48 a.m.
                                                     Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/17/20 2:43 p.m.
     Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Aaron Freed 9/10/20 12:20 p.m.
           Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?Jabberwok 9/10/20 12:30 p.m.
           Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?VikingBoyBilly 9/21/20 3:10 a.m.
     Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?General-RADIX 9/14/20 12:37 p.m.
     Re: how many people still use keyboard controls?xcalibur 9/22/20 7:36 p.m.

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