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Re: Two different balances
Posted By: Jabberwok <funkycaribou@aim.com>	Date: 2/11/13 9:52 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Two different balances (yakaman) I couldn't really put my finger on it before, but I think this is what has been bothering me most about the H4 campaign. In older games, on normal difficulty, I used to go leaping at enemies with an AR, throwing grenades, melees, etc, and now it seems to be nearly impossible to even leave cover. I thought maybe the game was just harder, but I guess it could be a focus shift. I decided to play 4 on normal after finishing Heroic, and it wasn't really difficult, but I still spent nearly the whole game at range picking enemies off with one of the many headshot weapons. I usually like sniping, but there's just something frustrating and confining in this case. : When I say "formal", I mean "PvP multiplayer with : stat-tracking and published statistics and MLG-type competitive : requirements". Also, it was LAN-only, no? Never played on PC. : This touches on the source of the problem: escalation to serve MP game-play. : Over time, we have been conditioned to play very carefully and more : realistically: don't run across the map, don't stick your head out, don't : you dare get caught without a place to fall back to. Stick to cover. Snipe : (or semi-snipe) when you can. People have gotten so damn good with the : precision weapons that they have effectively obsoleted everything else. : If you include precision weapons in the toolbox, then you have to design : encounters around them. Then, you have to give the bad guys precision : weapons of their own, which often do much greater damage. So then the : duck/cover/snipe paradigm begins to obsolete other encounters in SP just : as in MP. Because people really get use to the precision weapons in MP : they expect them in SP, and now encounters no longer even vaguely resemble : the Halo 1 or ODST encounters. : Yes - the Rookie in ODST could take a beam rifle shot to the head and shake : it off. Totally unrealistic, but fun. Yes - the Chief could be one-shot by : a Jackel in H2. More realistic, but mind-blowingly irritating.

Message Index

Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	Jabberwok	2/10/13 2:00 p.m.
Re: Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	Seraph xxvii	2/10/13 3:45 p.m.
Ah. Weapon redundancy.	Gravemind	2/10/13 3:53 p.m.
Re: Ah. Weapon redundancy.	Jabberwok	2/10/13 4:33 p.m.
Yeah *sigh*	SonGoharotto	2/10/13 4:08 p.m.
It's worse than that.	Quirel	2/10/13 4:10 p.m.
Even worser	scarab	2/10/13 4:16 p.m.
Re: Even worser	Quirel	2/10/13 4:30 p.m.
Re: Even worser	Jabberwok	2/10/13 4:47 p.m.
Re: Even worser	RC Master	2/10/13 5:10 p.m.
Re: Even worser	Quirel	2/10/13 5:13 p.m.
Re: Even worser	RC Master	2/10/13 5:18 p.m.
It's so not cool	scarab	2/10/13 7:25 p.m.
That it ain't.	Quirel	2/10/13 7:42 p.m.
Re: That it ain't.	Jabberwok	2/10/13 7:55 p.m.
Re: That it ain't.	RC Master	2/10/13 8:04 p.m.
Re: That it ain't.	Quirel	2/10/13 8:13 p.m.
Re: Even worser	Jabberwok	2/10/13 5:34 p.m.
Re: Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	serpx	2/10/13 4:49 p.m.
Re: Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	Jabberwok	2/10/13 4:53 p.m.
well if you want different...	scarab	2/10/13 7:38 p.m.
Re: well if you want different...	Jabberwok	2/10/13 7:49 p.m.
If that happens: see a doctor!	scarab	2/11/13 1:51 a.m.
Re: Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	serpx	2/10/13 4:55 p.m.
Re: Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	Ragashingo	2/10/13 5:02 p.m.
Re: Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	Jabberwok	2/10/13 5:31 p.m.
Re: Halo 4 complaint (sort of): weapons	Jabberwok	2/10/13 5:51 p.m.
Forerunner Units	Ragashingo	2/10/13 6:51 p.m.
Re: Forerunner Units	Jabberwok	2/10/13 7:23 p.m.
Re: Forerunner Units	RC Master	2/10/13 7:58 p.m.
Re: Forerunner Units	Ragashingo	2/10/13 8:41 p.m.
Re: Forerunner Units	SonGoharotto	2/10/13 8:40 p.m.
Re: Forerunner Units	Quirel	2/11/13 3:40 p.m.
One more thing: weapon shelves	Dervish	2/10/13 5:16 p.m.
Re: One more thing: weapon shelves	serpx	2/10/13 5:40 p.m.
Re: One more thing: weapon shelves	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/13 7:43 p.m.
Re: One more thing: weapon shelves	scarab	2/10/13 7:46 p.m.
Re: One more thing: weapon shelves	Cody Miller	2/10/13 8:26 p.m.
Two different balances	scarab	2/11/13 2:06 a.m.
Re: Two different balances	yakaman	2/11/13 1:26 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	Jabberwok	2/11/13 2:40 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	Gravemind	2/11/13 3:00 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	yakaman	2/11/13 6:41 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	Jabberwok	2/11/13 9:41 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	uberfoop	2/11/13 4:00 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	yakaman	2/11/13 6:32 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	uberfoop	2/11/13 9:32 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	Jabberwok	2/11/13 10:01 p.m.
Re: Two different balances	uberfoop	2/11/13 10:05 p.m.
Theory of Mind	scarab	2/12/13 9:51 a.m.
Re: Two different balances	Jabberwok	2/11/13 9:52 p.m.
Re: One more thing: weapon shelves	Leviathan	2/10/13 9:13 p.m.
You can't balance muskets with AK-47s	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	2/11/13 6:54 p.m.
Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Quirel	2/11/13 7:38 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Bry	2/11/13 7:46 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	ZackDark	2/11/13 8:07 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	uberfoop	2/11/13 9:09 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Bry	2/11/13 9:28 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Quirel	2/12/13 1:46 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Bry	2/12/13 3:38 p.m.
Does every Marine carry a rocket launcher?	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	2/11/13 9:06 p.m.
Do Hunters carry assault rifles?	Quirel	2/12/13 2:04 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Metalingus627	2/11/13 9:12 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Quirel	2/12/13 1:49 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	thebruce0	2/12/13 4:58 p.m.
Re: Is a rocket launcher balanced with a magnum?	Jabberwok	2/12/13 8:11 p.m.
Re: You can't balance muskets with AK-47s	Jabberwok	2/11/13 10:24 p.m.
Re: One more thing: weapon shelves	Jabberwok	2/10/13 5:46 p.m.
Re: One more thing: weapon shelves	7he grunt w/a plasma pistol	2/10/13 8:19 p.m.