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Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>	Date: 1/9/13 10:54 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons (scarab) Gravemind: : It was such a sexy gun. And they had the model in the game code. Why oh why : didn't they just use it instead of that tacky thing we actually got? None of the weapon models have stayed the same between games, and most of them have changed fairly significantly. Also the DMR was supposed to have been phased out except in Army forces, and even there it was less used, so it makes sense for this to be a new model-- that is, it makes sense the manufacturer(s) might have a new and hopefully improved design out with a new model number. gamerguy2002: : Either they didn't know about it, didn't use it, or didn't care if anyone : found these or not. it could be one of those... scarab: : Not bundled with game engine? : I think that 343 said that they had created a new content authoring system to : speed up iteration time. We know that Bungie had their own tools for that. : I wondered what was wrong with Bungie's tools. Maybe 343 didn't have them. : The term game engine can have a broad definition but maybe content generation : and management tools were not part of the package agreed between Bungie : and MS. or it could be that... or they couldn't make it work with the changes they made, or maybe they took a different approach... This only explains some of the weapons left in but, well, do you remember the Scarab Gun? That was put in Halo 2 as something to produce the Scarab's main weapon's effects, and if you do it right you can grab it from places besides the one most people know about-- namely any place and time the Scarab's main weapon is firing. I've heard about this being used for other effects and other things in Halo and other games too. They might have used that approach for the Hunters' arm cannon thing, and maybe the Sentinels, I'm not sure (they usually use their weapons against the Covenant Storm Covenant loyalists Storm Covenant Sangheili terrorists former Covenant alien insurrectionists whatever they are at the end of Requiem); they could probably just mark it as not usable-- we can do it with various things in gametypes, a lot of vehicles aren't drivable, ODST you couldn't pick up equipment even though it was fully functional, and in the first game the Sentinels have a weapon that appears when they fire and disappears as soon as they stop firing or are destroyed. As for the old DMR, the name makes me think it's like the stasis rifle and attach rifle-- something they played around with without giving it a final model, because they didn't add it to the game

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Message Index

Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	ZaneZavin2	1/8/13 1:32 p.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	SonGoharotto	1/8/13 2:16 p.m.
At least is was unique and distinctive.	Gravemind	1/8/13 4:10 p.m.
Re: At least is was unique and distinctive.	davidfuchs	1/8/13 5:50 p.m.
Also, Reach DMR model FTW.	Gravemind	1/8/13 8:25 p.m.
Re: Also, Reach DMR model FTW.	SonGoharotto	1/8/13 8:32 p.m.
So?	gamerguy2002	1/8/13 9:14 p.m.
Re: Also, Reach DMR model FTW.	Gravemind	1/8/13 9:25 p.m.
Re: Also, Reach DMR model FTW.	TDSpiral	1/8/13 10:45 p.m.
Re: Also, Reach DMR model FTW.	uberfoop	1/8/13 10:53 p.m.
Re: Also, Reach DMR model FTW.	uberfoop	1/8/13 9:40 p.m.
Re: Also, Reach DMR model FTW.	Azo 'Galvat	1/8/13 10:54 p.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	Dervish	1/8/13 10:08 p.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	RC Master	1/8/13 10:37 p.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	gamerguy2002	1/9/13 12:49 a.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	scarab	1/9/13 4:45 a.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	General Vagueness	1/9/13 10:54 a.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	Quirel	1/9/13 12:25 p.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	General Vagueness	1/9/13 1:14 p.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	Bry	1/9/13 2:00 p.m.
Re: Unused/Deleted H4 Weapons	gamerguy2002	1/26/13 8:52 a.m.