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Re: I hate being lied to.
Posted By: Bry <bmulheran@gmail.com>Date: 12/12/12 9:12 a.m.

In Response To: Re: I hate being lied to. (SonofMacPhisto)


: This is an excellent point. If I were at 343i, I'd be raging.

Yeah, MS sign the pay cheques after all. 343i is much more a part of the parent company than Bungie ever were, and will follow the company line much more closely (I'm sure we remember a particularly upset message when Bungie's big reveal plans where cancelled at the last moment a few years ago for a 'dedicated Halo event' which never happened. They didn't exactly bite their tongues).

Now I'll just say, I'm not upset that people got the maps for free (LE customer, I got plenty of other content besides the War Games pass).
In fact, it was very beneficial last night!!! :D
Nor was I upset about having to wait longer to access them (par for the course and something I expected).

Now I'm not really upset about this bit of PR spin/backtracking/cover up either, but it does seem really quite silly and under the circumstances is forming a significant deal of mistrust.

Besides that, this is pretty much guaranteed to cause further strife when people suddenly find their access to the maps is revoked in a week. Maybe that is partly an issue with entitlement as GB1 tried to say, but giving someone something and saying you'll be taking it away after the fact is going to cause confusion.

This all comes quite soon after the Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 pre-order 'scandal' as well.

You know, where pre-ordering gained you access to an extra exclusive map, Nuketown 2025.
Then a mere week after release, it was removed from matchmaking with an announcement that its presence was only ever temporary and it would only be brought back for special events, etc.
That decision was quite quickly turned around.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/20/black-ops-2-nuke-town-playlist-removed-outcry-gets-it-added-t/

Bry's dedicated gaming YT channel



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Crimson Map Pack according to Microsoft PR...MoltenSlowa 12/11/12 10:04 p.m.
     Re: Crimson Map Pack according to Microsoft PR...FyreWulff 12/11/12 10:05 p.m.
           LiterallyFyreWulff 12/11/12 10:10 p.m.
                 Re: LiterallyHedgemony 12/11/12 10:24 p.m.
                       Re: Literallywyoming 12/12/12 11:38 a.m.
                 Re: LiterallyCody Miller 12/12/12 6:43 p.m.
     Wow, hahaha.uberfoop 12/11/12 10:23 p.m.
           Re: Wow, hahaha.FyreWulff 12/11/12 10:44 p.m.
                 Re: Wow, hahaha.FyreWulff 12/11/12 10:45 p.m.
     You didn't get screwed for the free H4 specs?UnrealCh13f 12/11/12 10:38 p.m.
           Jimmies are rustledskillra 12/13/12 1:52 a.m.
     Total crapMid7night 12/11/12 11:18 p.m.
     I'm curious, though...uberfoop 12/11/12 11:23 p.m.
           Good question...Mid7night 12/11/12 11:44 p.m.
                 Re: Good question...Hedgemony 12/11/12 11:55 p.m.
           Re: I'm curious, though...FyreWulff 12/11/12 11:47 p.m.
     I'm generally pro-343i and MS...Lurono 12/11/12 11:38 p.m.
           Re: I'm generally pro-343i and MS...SonGoharotto 12/11/12 11:43 p.m.
                 Re: I'm generally pro-343i and MS...Lurono 12/12/12 12:09 a.m.
                       Re: I'm generally pro-343i and MS...Grizzlei 12/12/12 12:13 a.m.
                             Okay, I laughed =P *NM*Lurono 12/12/12 2:16 a.m.
     Somehow I only had one gif...Grizzlei 12/11/12 11:39 p.m.
           lol *NM*Lurono 12/11/12 11:40 p.m.
     Gimme a break.GrimBrother One 12/11/12 11:40 p.m.
           Sounds like a bunch of people who really don't GAFGrizzlei 12/11/12 11:54 p.m.
                 heh heh. *NM*zoojoo 12/13/12 5:29 a.m.
           this is how I feel as well *NM*kidtsunami 12/12/12 3:13 a.m.
           Re: Gimme a break.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/12/12 7:03 a.m.
           Re: Gimme a break.DEEP NNN 12/12/12 8:17 a.m.
           Truth vs. PlacationMid7night 12/12/12 9:10 a.m.
           Re: Gimme a break.Kermit 12/12/12 9:43 a.m.
           My eventual final response...GrimBrother One 12/12/12 10:49 a.m.
                 Re: My eventual final response...thebruce0 12/12/12 11:00 a.m.
                 Re: My eventual final response...Kermit 12/12/12 2:05 p.m.
           I have a response, Grim!Avateur 12/12/12 2:10 p.m.
     Re: Crimson Map Pack according to Microsoft PR...kanbo 12/12/12 12:03 a.m.
     Crimson Map Pack is now apparently a trial versionUnrealCh13f 12/12/12 12:22 a.m.
           Then I look back at the "PR Statement"UnrealCh13f 12/12/12 12:27 a.m.
           Re: Crimson Map Pack is now apparently a trial verPhoenix_9286 12/12/12 12:37 a.m.
                 Re: Crimson Map Pack is now apparently a trial vermunky-058 12/12/12 1:13 a.m.
                 TCKaos put it nicely on NeoGAF.uberfoop 12/12/12 3:51 a.m.
                       UPDATE: bsangel made a blog post.uberfoop 12/12/12 4:13 a.m.
                             I hate being lied to.bluerunner 12/12/12 7:49 a.m.
                                   Re: I hate being lied to.Louis Wu 12/12/12 8:06 a.m.
                                         Re: I hate being lied to.SonofMacPhisto 12/12/12 8:24 a.m.
                                               Re: I hate being lied to.Bry 12/12/12 9:12 a.m.
                                                     Re: I hate being lied to.SonofMacPhisto 12/12/12 9:25 a.m.
                                                           Re: I hate being lied to.Leisandir 12/12/12 9:36 a.m.
                                                                 Re: I hate being lied to.SonofMacPhisto 12/12/12 9:45 a.m.
                                                                       Re: I hate being lied to.Leisandir 12/12/12 10:47 a.m.
                                         Re: I hate being lied to.bluerunner 12/12/12 10:03 a.m.
                                         Never heard of this Pay & Play thing.Captain Spark 12/12/12 11:25 a.m.
                                               Re: Never heard of this Pay & Play thing.hunt3r 12/13/12 2:16 a.m.
                                         Re: I hate being lied to.Phoenix_9286 12/12/12 1:03 p.m.
                                               Re: I hate being lied to.Louis Wu 12/12/12 1:10 p.m.
                                                     Re: I hate being lied to.Phoenix_9286 12/12/12 1:24 p.m.
                                               Re: I hate being lied to.uberfoop 12/12/12 1:14 p.m.
                                                     Re: I hate being lied to.SonofMacPhisto 12/12/12 1:18 p.m.
                                         can they do that?hunt3r 12/13/12 2:14 a.m.
                                               Re: can they do that?uberfoop 12/13/12 2:24 a.m.
                                               Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Lurono 12/13/12 3:09 a.m.
                                                     Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?hunt3r 12/13/12 9:33 p.m.
                                                           Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Ragashingo 12/14/12 1:57 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?hunt3r 12/15/12 12:24 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Lurono 12/15/12 2:37 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Leisandir 12/15/12 1:27 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?hunt3r 12/17/12 7:55 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?thebruce0 12/17/12 9:44 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Mid7night 12/17/12 10:29 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Bry 12/17/12 10:57 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Mid7night 12/17/12 11:03 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Bry 12/17/12 11:21 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?thebruce0 12/17/12 1:12 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Bry 12/17/12 1:57 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?ChrisTheeCrappy 12/17/12 2:16 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?thebruce0 12/17/12 4:28 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Bry 12/17/12 4:54 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?thebruce0 12/17/12 8:44 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Ragashingo 12/17/12 3:52 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Holy crap, dude... Hyperoble much?Mid7night 12/17/12 4:46 p.m.
                                                                                   Yeah.. Saw that after I posted. Oops. :p *NM*Ragashingo 12/17/12 7:34 p.m.
                       Re: TCKaos put it nicely on NeoGAF.Cody Miller 12/12/12 6:49 p.m.
                             Re: TCKaos put it nicely on NeoGAF.Leisandir 12/12/12 7:55 p.m.
                                   I doubt thatrhubarb 12/14/12 1:17 p.m.
           Re: Crimson Map Pack is now apparently a trial verAsian Inferno 12/12/12 2:03 a.m.
           Will they still be usable in local/custom games?SonGoharotto 12/12/12 10:25 a.m.
                 Re: Will they still be usable in local/custom gameAsian Inferno 12/12/12 5:51 p.m.
     Re: Crimson Map Pack according to Microsoft PR...Asian Inferno 12/12/12 4:15 a.m.
     Does the posting code not catch unterminated tags?kornman00 12/12/12 4:23 a.m.
           No. Never. *NM*uberfoop 12/12/12 4:24 a.m.
                 Re: No. Never.Louis Wu 12/12/12 8:07 a.m.
                       Re: No. Never.Miguel Chavez 12/12/12 2:52 p.m.
                             Re: No. Never.Louis Wu 12/12/12 4:24 p.m.
                                   Re: No. Never.NsU Soldier 12/12/12 7:38 p.m.
     The real questionSchooly D 12/12/12 9:37 a.m.
           tru7h *NM*SonofMacPhisto 12/12/12 9:45 a.m.
           Re: The real questionbluerunner 12/12/12 9:53 a.m.



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