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Cody's critique (long) | |
Posted By: Kermit <kermi7@mac.com> | Date: 10/23/10 3:37 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net (Hawaiian Pig) : And while we're at it. Here's an article Cody wrote that has yet to be : posted on HBO. Okay, I read Cody's article. I thought this before, and I'll say it now. I understand why Cody is so passionate the rules of narrative for films and novels. That's his profession. I know a lot about that myself. I have shelves full of writing books, and for every rule you read, you can find amazing examples where said rule has been flouted, and it boils down to the writer knowing their craft, knowing the purpose of the rules, and knowing when the needs of their work overcome the need to follow a rule. I actually think it's a matter of interpretation whether Reach follows traditional rules of narrative. I agree with Aisha Tyler, who, in an interview, stated that Reach is "a lot more mature, and narratively a lot more sophisticated [than the previous four games]." (I'm not going to be so arrogant as to say that those who don't like it don't understand it, but I can't help but wonder if they'd grant me the same courtesy.) Ultimately, Reach is a game, and it's effectiveness as an experience isn't as dependent on following the same criteria we use to judge more passive art forms. I repeat what I've said here many times. Reach feels like a real place, and for the most part, the characters seem more like actual flesh and blood adults than they do in any other Halo game (although ODST provides competition, character-wise). That's extremely important. Just within fiction, different forms rely on plot to different degrees. Mysteries definitely do. Literary fiction, not as much. I've played plenty of games with weaker plots than Reach, and some with plots that were more developed, but the latter weren't necessarily better. Plot structure is far from being the whole enchilada. You may be serving an entirely different dish. I believe such is the case with Reach. It immersed me in the experience better than any other Halo game (with one exception: the dialogue associated with non-scripted gameplay events seemed more repetitive and sometimes did not seem to fit as well as it did in some of the earlier games). I was certainly more affected emotionally than I have been by any other Halo game or the books I've read. Then again, I didn't set up the dictums of Syd Feld's "Screenplay" as the standard by which all narratives are judged. I got pretty much exactly what I expected out of Reach, given what I had read about what they were trying to accomplish. They wanted to create a darker, more human world. What happens (plot) wasn't the focus (from the beginning, you know the end), but the focus was on how it happens, and how what happens is presented. I believe that for the most part, they hit the target they were aiming at. Maybe it wasn't the target everyone wanted them to aim at, but I would argue they aimed for a higher target than people expected, one that required us to fill in more blanks, pay attention to subtleties, and generally think more about what fighting for survival really feels like, and what sacrifice really means. They were ambitious in the risks they took, but I can't be more delighted that they did. One more thing about canon. It's interesting that Cody is so involved in a web site whose name says it's all about the canon, when he didn't think that aspect was worthy of comment in his initial 4000-word treatise on Reach. But in regards to the books, I honestly haven't read all of them, but the ones I have read are at least as flawed as any of the games, if not more so. Some I couldn't read they were so bad. Eric Nyland is a good writer, but TFOR is only as good as a book written in weeks can be. There's some laughably bad lines in there that I'm sure he wishes he hadn't written. Halsey's journal is much more compelling to me. And I just can't get so worked up about so-called glaring inconsistencies, or treating some text as if it were gospel or Will Shakespeare. I've enjoyed a lot of the non-game Halo material, but with the possible exception of Halo 2, the games are better as games than the rest are as examples of their respective mediums. One final word. What has made HBO less fun than it was, say, 10 years (or 10 months) ago, is that it does seem that some here have come to identify with their critical positions so much that they've become ideological and lost perspective on how important their disappointments are in the grand scheme of things, or even worse, they seem frustrated that everyone doesn't admit they're right, or even worse than that, they've come to relish their role as griefers for those who have thoroughly enjoyed what Bungie has created. Another way of putting it, they've acted like immature jerks more often than I would have expected from Bungie fans. I won't get into a chicken or egg argument, but some on my side of the debate have acted that way, too. Love, Kermit (Hey Lobster, let's compare notes sometime.)
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HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 12:34 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 12:38 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 12:55 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | newguy2445 | 10/23/10 1:38 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:08 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 7:52 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 4:14 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:18 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 4:29 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:31 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | BlueNinja | 10/23/10 4:34 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 5:30 a.m. |
Cody's critique (long) | Kermit | 10/23/10 3:37 p.m. |
Bravo | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:51 p.m. |
The Haloverse Will Survive. | Leviathan | 10/23/10 6:03 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:27 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:40 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:57 p.m. |
Re: Cody's critique (long) | DHalo | 10/23/10 5:02 p.m. |
Oh and... | DHalo | 10/23/10 5:04 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 5:10 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | DHalo | 10/23/10 5:21 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Leviathan | 10/23/10 6:17 p.m. |
Thank ya :) *NM* | DHalo | 10/23/10 7:24 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 2:19 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 4:36 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 5:28 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | DHalo | 10/24/10 6:02 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:20 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | DHalo | 10/24/10 6:27 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 7:49 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 6:27 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:41 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 6:06 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | urK | 10/24/10 6:14 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 6:34 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:40 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 6:49 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Cody Miller | 10/24/10 6:53 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | mnemesis | 10/24/10 7:22 p.m. |
Re: Oh and... | Hawaiian Pig | 10/24/10 7:39 p.m. |
To Kermit - Gladly *NM* | Lobster | 10/24/10 1:17 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Caleb 117 | 10/23/10 1:24 a.m. |
Ok, but | Pebbles | 10/23/10 1:32 a.m. |
Re: Ok, but | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:08 a.m. |
You guys are sick | kanbo | 10/23/10 1:37 a.m. |
Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 1:38 a.m. |
Your posts get more and more stupid every day. | Spartan Jag | 10/23/10 2:51 a.m. |
I lol'd *NM* | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:24 a.m. |
Have you ever tried not being an asshole? | hyokin | 10/23/10 8:59 a.m. |
You didn't answer his question. *NM* | gunluva | 10/23/10 1:05 p.m. |
Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his post. | hyokin | 10/23/10 2:13 p.m. |
Re: Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his pos | gunluva | 10/23/10 2:20 p.m. |
Re: Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his pos | Leviathan | 10/23/10 2:41 p.m. |
Re: Obviously I must be stupid to reply to his pos | Spartan Jag | 10/23/10 3:08 p.m. |
That's enough. All of this has gone WAY too far. *NM* | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 3:17 p.m. |
Agreed. I'm DONE. *NM* | hyokin | 10/23/10 3:20 p.m. |
Re: Agreed. I'm DONE. | Spartan Jag | 10/23/10 3:54 p.m. |
? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 3:56 p.m. |
Re: ? | gunluva | 10/23/10 4:02 p.m. |
Re: ? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 4:18 p.m. |
Re: ? | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:31 p.m. |
Re: ? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 4:39 p.m. |
Re: ? | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:41 p.m. |
Re: ? | Vincent | 10/23/10 4:45 p.m. |
Re: ? | padraig08 | 10/23/10 5:23 p.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:52 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 9:02 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:10 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 9:50 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:59 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | Gravemind | 10/23/10 11:16 a.m. |
Re: Seriously? | hyokin | 10/23/10 2:07 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Caleb 117 | 10/23/10 1:44 a.m. |
Love it. | Gravemind | 10/23/10 1:48 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | WhoLikesChicken | 10/23/10 2:11 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:02 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | WhoLikesChicken | 10/23/10 11:07 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:51 a.m. |
TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 2:21 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Schooly D | 10/23/10 2:42 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:37 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | DHalo | 10/23/10 9:47 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:44 p.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:13 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 6:25 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:27 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 6:45 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:51 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 7:00 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:13 a.m. |
Re: TheMultipleLevelsofHaloCannon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 7:26 a.m. |
What a waste of time and bandwidth | Hikaru-119 | 10/23/10 2:34 a.m. |
That's what I like to see... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:32 a.m. |
Re: What a waste of time and bandwidth | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:16 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Compton | 10/23/10 2:41 a.m. |
No. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:35 a.m. |
To elaborate. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:41 a.m. |
Alternately: | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:49 a.m. |
It is getting old. However.......... | PsychoRaven | 10/23/10 3:44 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:49 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:50 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:53 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 3:58 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 4:07 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | kapowaz | 10/23/10 4:14 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 4:15 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:20 a.m. |
Ok Riceatron. Let me lay this out for you. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:28 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Eiii | 10/23/10 3:55 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Riceatron | 10/23/10 3:56 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Eiii | 10/23/10 4:31 a.m. |
Re: It is getting old. However.......... | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:18 a.m. |
You're like the pro-bungie version of hp/cody *NM* | Eiii | 10/23/10 3:51 a.m. |
Re: No. | mattroe | 10/23/10 5:05 a.m. |
Now *this* is ridiculous | kapowaz | 10/23/10 5:17 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | mattroe | 10/23/10 5:21 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Bry | 10/23/10 5:25 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:25 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Bry | 10/23/10 6:39 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:46 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Bry | 10/23/10 6:57 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 12:25 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | kapowaz | 10/23/10 9:14 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:29 a.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:50 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | DHalo | 10/23/10 2:58 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:59 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Vincent | 10/23/10 3:01 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:03 p.m. |
Re: Now *this* is ridiculous | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 3:38 p.m. |
You've missed the point... | mattroe | 10/23/10 7:29 p.m. |
Really? Still? | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 9:18 a.m. |
think he left | General Battuta | 10/25/10 9:20 a.m. |
Sorry, only 1/3 through this thread :P | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 9:21 a.m. |
Dying Horse here, mind the flies *nm* *NM* | justagrunt1 | 10/25/10 10:52 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | imode | 10/23/10 3:41 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | aloyisus | 10/23/10 6:09 a.m. |
Are you fucking kidding us? | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 3:57 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 3:59 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Eiii | 10/23/10 4:04 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 4:07 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Eiii | 10/23/10 4:21 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 4:22 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | kapowaz | 10/23/10 4:00 a.m. |
That I pick dead characters for GTs? *NM* | NobleSixActual | 10/23/10 4:01 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:31 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:26 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Azo 'Galvat | 10/23/10 7:42 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Beckx | 10/23/10 10:24 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | The Loot | 10/23/10 10:47 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:36 a.m. |
Re: Are you fucking kidding us? | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:51 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 5:50 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 6:37 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Lobster | 10/23/10 6:50 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 7:02 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | El Presidente81 | 10/23/10 7:48 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:26 a.m. |
Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you guys | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 2:57 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:02 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 3:07 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | mnemesis | 10/23/10 3:09 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | Eiii | 10/23/10 3:27 p.m. |
Re: Does tongue-in-cheek not mean anything to you | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:36 p.m. |
Wow. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 3:28 p.m. |
woah | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 3:42 p.m. |
Re: woah | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:46 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | DHalo | 10/23/10 3:44 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | mnemesis | 10/23/10 3:58 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 4:44 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 5:52 p.m. |
Re: Wow. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 4:00 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Schooly D | 10/23/10 9:29 a.m. |
No, I guess it doesn't... | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:00 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Kermit | 10/23/10 3:35 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 7:24 a.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 8:46 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/23/10 10:16 a.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/23/10 10:28 a.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:57 a.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 12:39 p.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/24/10 8:24 p.m. |
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Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/25/10 6:29 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/25/10 6:44 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/25/10 7:20 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/25/10 10:54 a.m. |
Just a thought... | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 9:49 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Bry | 10/25/10 11:06 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/25/10 11:06 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Beckx | 10/25/10 11:12 a.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 1:09 p.m. |
Re: Just a thought... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/25/10 1:29 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Pebbles | 10/23/10 8:02 a.m. |
^_This *NM* | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:20 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 8:52 a.m. |
Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | urK | 10/23/10 12:20 p.m. |
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Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | urK | 10/23/10 12:40 p.m. |
Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | aloyisus | 10/23/10 12:42 p.m. |
Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:00 p.m. |
Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:05 p.m. |
Re: Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? | Bry | 10/23/10 1:17 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 10/23/10 12:35 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 12:37 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:09 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 10/23/10 1:45 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:59 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | ArteenEsben | 10/23/10 7:13 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:45 a.m. |
Has Bungie ever said the books are canon? *NM* | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 7:50 a.m. |
They have... | Bry | 10/23/10 8:01 a.m. |
Re: They have... | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:04 a.m. |
Re: They have... | Bry | 10/23/10 8:10 a.m. |
Re: They have... | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:18 a.m. |
Re: They have... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 8:32 a.m. |
Hopefully Frankie can fix all | evildoctorwill | 10/23/10 8:36 a.m. |
Re: Hopefully Frankie can fix all | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 8:55 a.m. |
I think it might be down to a change of hats | onebitrocket | 10/23/10 4:04 p.m. |
This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 9:03 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:12 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 9:15 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:42 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 9:56 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:02 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 10:06 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:14 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:17 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:07 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 10:10 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:13 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 10:15 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:18 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:21 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:11 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:18 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 10:32 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:37 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Bry | 10/23/10 10:42 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:45 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:41 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Riceatron | 10/23/10 12:46 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:12 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Vincent | 10/23/10 1:14 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:30 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:33 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:41 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:44 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 1:51 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:56 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 2:01 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Quirel | 10/23/10 6:48 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:58 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | Quirel | 10/23/10 8:24 p.m. |
Re: This is why. | DHalo | 10/23/10 10:39 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 11:13 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Gravemind | 10/23/10 11:45 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 11:47 a.m. |
Re: This is why. | Leviathan | 10/23/10 12:08 p.m. |
Re: They have... | Bry | 10/23/10 10:25 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | ArteenEsben | 10/23/10 9:35 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:57 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/23/10 3:59 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Quirel | 10/23/10 7:04 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Bry | 10/23/10 7:10 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Quirel | 10/23/10 8:18 p.m. |
History is immutable! LOL! *NM* | Kermit | 10/23/10 3:24 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 5:05 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 5:27 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 5:56 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 6:16 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:54 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 7:04 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Quirel | 10/23/10 7:11 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Bry | 10/23/10 7:18 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:39 p.m. |
Wait... Bootcamp #2 came out? | Leviathan | 10/23/10 9:10 p.m. |
Re: Wait... Bootcamp #2 came out? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 10:33 p.m. |
Re: Wait... Bootcamp #2 came out? | Leviathan | 10/24/10 1:51 a.m. |
This ^ | Kermit | 10/24/10 12:12 p.m. |
Re: History is immutable! LOL! | Beckx | 10/23/10 5:30 p.m. |
I like midichlorians *NM* | Mirel | 10/23/10 7:23 a.m. |
This is entertaining. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 8:05 a.m. |
Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | FoolsRun | 10/23/10 8:35 a.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Lobster | 10/23/10 8:45 a.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 9:07 a.m. |
Re: Allow me to clarify... | FoolsRun | 10/23/10 6:48 p.m. |
Re: Allow me to clarify... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 7:04 p.m. |
I understand.. | FoolsRun | 10/23/10 7:57 p.m. |
By golly you do | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 9:22 p.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 10:12 a.m. |
Re: Not sure why anyone cares at this point... | Azo 'Galvat | 10/23/10 10:44 a.m. |
Halo is not the Dollars Trilogy. *NM* | uberfoop | 10/23/10 6:23 p.m. |
HP is ready for his thorazine, nurse. *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 10/23/10 8:45 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | DrDoctor | 10/23/10 9:25 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Vincent | 10/23/10 10:09 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 10:13 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 3:42 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Beckx | 10/23/10 10:34 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Jak Redlevske | 10/23/10 10:45 a.m. |
Skipping this. Life's too short. *NM* | Kermit | 10/23/10 11:06 a.m. |
Re: Skipping this. Life's too short. | General Vagueness | 10/23/10 11:24 a.m. |
I appreciate your opinion. | kanbo | 10/23/10 11:22 a.m. |
Re: I appreciate your opinion. | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 11:24 a.m. |
"everyone else"? *NM* | Vincent | 10/23/10 11:28 a.m. |
Here's my opinion.... | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 11:31 a.m. |
Thank... you.... GOD! | chris101b | 10/23/10 11:49 a.m. |
Re: Thank... you.... GOD! | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 12:32 p.m. |
D: Whatever happened to zen and peace? *NM* | Cortana4ever | 10/23/10 12:37 p.m. |
Re: D: Whatever happened to zen and peace? | Quirel | 10/23/10 9:21 p.m. |
...the milkman? the paperboy? evening tv? *NM* | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 10:43 a.m. |
New record! | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 1:20 p.m. |
Um... no | chris101b | 10/23/10 1:30 p.m. |
Hey Cody | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 2:28 p.m. |
Re: Hey Cody | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 2:37 p.m. |
Re: Hey Cody | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 2:55 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Caleb 117 | 10/23/10 3:13 p.m. |
Well now that the dust has settled. | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 3:56 p.m. |
Re: Well now that the dust has settled. | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:13 p.m. |
Re: Well now that the dust has settled. | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 5:03 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Quirel | 10/23/10 4:55 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | DHalo | 10/23/10 4:58 p.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 5:33 p.m. |
My take on Reach | Meyeselph | 10/23/10 4:56 p.m. |
first time poster's response | Dervish | 10/23/10 6:01 p.m. |
great example | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 6:09 p.m. |
Re: great example | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 6:24 p.m. |
Re: great example | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 6:48 p.m. |
Re: great example | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:11 p.m. |
I have evidence | Avateur | 10/23/10 7:21 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 7:28 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Avateur | 10/23/10 7:40 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 7:47 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Avateur | 10/23/10 8:03 p.m. |
Addendum | Avateur | 10/23/10 8:22 p.m. |
This whole subthread is a joke | Eiii | 10/23/10 8:42 p.m. |
Dude | DHalo | 10/23/10 8:46 p.m. |
Re: Dude | Quirel | 10/23/10 9:29 p.m. |
Re: This whole subthread is a joke | Avateur | 10/23/10 9:00 p.m. |
Re: This whole subthread is a joke | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 9:18 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 8:26 p.m. |
i heart mig | DHalo | 10/23/10 8:28 p.m. |
oops | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 8:29 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 9:06 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Miguel Chavez | 10/23/10 10:27 p.m. |
"It takes ten seconds to make a first impression | 7he grunt w/a plasma pistol | 10/23/10 7:47 p.m. |
Re: "It takes ten seconds to make a first impressi | Sl'askia | 10/23/10 9:56 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | uberfoop | 10/23/10 7:52 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Hawaiian Pig | 10/23/10 8:41 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Eiii | 10/23/10 9:04 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | DHalo | 10/23/10 9:08 p.m. |
Re: I have evidence | Quirel | 10/23/10 9:34 p.m. |
Snotcannon.com *NM* | Urk | 10/23/10 9:41 p.m. |
Howdy, Urk. | gunluva | 10/23/10 9:56 p.m. |
Re: Howdy, Urk. | Sl'askia | 10/23/10 9:59 p.m. |
Clever devil. *NM* | Jak Redlevske | 10/23/10 11:21 p.m. |
Re: great example | Bry | 10/23/10 6:34 p.m. |
Re: first time poster's response | Leviathan | 10/23/10 6:36 p.m. |
Re: first time poster's response | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 10/23/10 6:43 p.m. |
The best post here, and with this I'm through. *NM* | Riceatron | 10/24/10 2:45 p.m. |
Haha, oh wow | radda | 10/23/10 8:52 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | Vincent | 10/23/10 9:00 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | radda | 10/23/10 10:02 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | DerekT07 | 10/23/10 11:22 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | Cody Miller | 10/23/10 11:32 p.m. |
Re: Haha, oh wow | DerekT07 | 10/24/10 12:05 a.m. |
Re: HaloReachIsNotCanon.net | Asian Inferno | 10/24/10 1:26 a.m. |
You honestly have more faith in 343i over Bungie? *NM* | Jayshum | 10/24/10 9:08 a.m. |
This is why... | 7he_7ruth | 10/24/10 10:52 a.m. |
Zathras can never have anything nice. *NM* | Beckx | 10/24/10 12:56 p.m. |
I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Eiii | 10/24/10 5:05 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | 7he_7ruth | 10/24/10 5:59 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Avateur | 10/24/10 10:11 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Eiii | 10/24/10 11:29 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | DHalo | 10/24/10 11:37 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Hawaiian Pig | 10/25/10 12:17 a.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Avateur | 10/24/10 11:45 p.m. |
Re: I think a bit of a BM-recap is in order | Hawaiian Pig | 10/25/10 12:26 a.m. |
Holycrap what did I miss this weekend? o_O *NM* | thebruce0 | 10/25/10 8:58 a.m. |
A -1d6 SAN hazard. Roll, please. *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 10/25/10 9:19 a.m. |
*IMG* | bluerunner | 10/25/10 10:46 a.m. |
Windmill FTW! *NM* | Beckx | 10/25/10 10:50 a.m. |
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