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Re: Those funky symbols...
Posted By: FoxHound <anglo321@yahoo.co.uk>	Date: 4/11/01 9:57 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Those funky symbols... (Mike Sholl) hmm...a circle is a circle to me!! OK symbolically the circle holds a ton of meaning. I could understand, for instance, how the circle could be used with various intersecting planes giving the circle more diversity as a typographic element but the 'juice' of the symbolism or iconography seems to be inside this frame, a least in these examples, this probably won't be the case when we see more of them. (On a side note, the circle being broken by an intersecting plane has been used extensively in culture. I did my degree thesis on the Soviet national symbol, the Hammer & Sickle and how it identified with the culture on a symbolic level but was also seen and used on a more subliminal level throughout the subculture like the avant-guarde art movement that was taking place around those revolutionary times. I then tried to relate how post modern culture has taken the symbol an uses it on different levels of signification. It's a shame I don't have a digital copy, this was about 8-9 years ago now so it was typed! But the idea of how symbols can dilute into common thinking and identity is interesting even more so that the levels of signifiers in a symbol seem to change as culture evolves, at least to some extent. Enough of that =) Ugh... If only i could put the head on I had when I was really into this sort of stuff, it's all a bit blury now...but still fascinating. I also like the sequential line of thinking, sequences are seen in so many mathematical principals. And as we see, there is not only movement of the symbols but a change or evolution of the symbol, maybe related to the movement or placement in relation to the shaft, this seems to hold some sort of perception to sequencing, in that the symbols might need to be correlated in some sort of order and position and even possibly activated or whatever in the correct 'time' (if movement is used) to decipher or unlock it, if that's what we're to do. : I think you made some very astute points. The math references are pretty : complex, yes, and it's basically just showing that they were obviously : capable of doing their calculus. The thing I wanted to point out about : their language that you didn't fully get was that with circles there are : infinite variations. How many sides are there to a circle? How many : degrees? Infinite. It is just that our limited human capabilities have a : hard time grasping this concept. I think that it is very likely that they : used these in sequence, as in numbers and letters. So that an attack group : could be designated "A3" and so on.

Message Index

Those funky symbols...	Louis Wu	4/10/01 8:23 p.m.
I'll take a stab at it.	Tursas	4/10/01 11:25 p.m.
Re: I'll take a stab at it.	Mike Sholl	4/11/01 7:40 a.m.
Re: Those funky symbols...	Thomas Magle Brodersen	4/11/01 2:29 a.m.
Re: Those funky symbols...	FoxHound	4/11/01 5:53 a.m.
Re: Those funky symbols...	Mike Sholl	4/11/01 7:41 a.m.
Re: Those funky symbols...	FoxHound	4/11/01 9:57 a.m.
Re: Those funky symbols...	jake bromberg	4/11/01 12:12 p.m.
ps	jake bromberg	4/11/01 2:02 p.m.
Re: ps	FoxHound	4/12/01 3:59 a.m.
aye, good point :> (nt)	FoxHound	4/11/01 2:18 p.m.