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Posted By: Tycho7en | Date: 1/13/02 8:20 a.m. | |
In Response To: Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts (Mark Levin) : (after all, where's he living in Fatum Iustum Stultorum after you smashed
The Rozinante. : I don't think the Marine starts timeline-jumping (or that D/T feels it is
You know how dreams work, right? When you're in a nightmare, you're in the middle of some catastrophe. During this catastrophe, you remain consious. Yet no matter what happens to you, it never affects you when you wake up. Of course, you can wake up in a cold sweat, screaming or what else... but that's another story. ;) So while the marine's Jjaro implants allow him a degree of control through this chaos, I don't believe that he has direct control over his "timeline jumping". Where he ends up is another one of the W'r monster's nightmares. It's just a constant, fluid dream-like chaos. It's not as complex as some may make it out to be. : I disagree... I think the dream terminals come from one of 2 sources: Either
The dream levels are an interlude between dreams. You know how when you go from one dream to another, when one ends and another begins... the events aren't very clear because you're going between phases of sleep. Perhaps the dream levels are a phase of the W'r monster's slumber. The dream terminals could be the W'r monster's subconsious, but as you said they could also be the marine's own subconsious, refected in terminal form with his Jjaro implants. : It's possible that the Marine, Durandal, and Thoth are all the results of
That works. : This is a bit contradictory: I thought you suggested that the movements were
Mmm... I don't think that Durandal himself understand the "jumps" any more than you do. My guess is that he thinks that Tycho might know something that he doesn't and thus transports you to his ship in hopes that you might be able to escape... where the last traces of your old (now heavily dream-influenced) reality end and a dream begins. Durandal's trapped on a Jjaro station, so he doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Might I add, the W'r monster's dreams are MUCH more deadly than the dreams that you or I have. They affect reality (remember PiD?). : Perhaps Tycho is Durandal, but without the Jjaro components. He literally is
Tycho does have some traces of his former self (from what you can make out of his history and his last statement before he's rebooted), in that he doesn't have much tolerance for misbehavior. Remember when he didn't talk to Durandal because Durandal was too "sarcastic"? It's difficult to say what's left of Tycho, since we hardly know about what he was in his non-rampant state. : This is why I try to make the end of MI in the same universe as M1 and M2: If
The w'r monster's trapped, his dreams end. Or at the very least, his dreams have been contained. It's quite simple. Everything returns to as it was in the post-M2 ending. : I think this instead refers to his development as a cosmic power throughout
"Destiny" is not what he becomes, it's what he is. No matter who the marine works with, he's victorious. At least, in his own battles. His masters aren't always as lucky... (Like my last post, I'll just skip over replying to the rest, simply because I don't have much of anything else to say.) |
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Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/13/02 1:53 a.m. | |
Good grief! | Hamish Sinclair | 1/13/02 5:44 a.m. | |
Holy Doctoral Thesis Batman! *NT* *NM* | Ernie | 1/15/02 3:27 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Mark Levin | 1/13/02 6:46 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Tycho7en | 1/13/02 8:20 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Cpt. Sqweky | 1/14/02 8:32 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/13/02 3:47 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Andrew Nagy | 1/14/02 7:00 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/14/02 1:54 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/14/02 2:59 p.m. | |
Duplicate post, sorry *NM* | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/14/02 3:04 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Andrew Nagy | 1/18/02 7:24 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Tru7h | 1/18/02 9:11 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/18/02 1:10 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Andrew Nagy | 1/14/02 7:00 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Tycho7en | 1/13/02 7:43 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/13/02 1:22 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Tycho7en | 1/13/02 3:06 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/13/02 11:31 p.m. | |
Wow, it all makes sense now! | Jonah | 1/15/02 12:37 a.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Tycho7en | 1/15/02 4:04 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Rincewind MoG | 1/13/02 1:23 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | Tru7h | 1/13/02 1:49 p.m. | |
Re: Dream Terminal Thoughts | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/13/02 3:59 p.m. | |
Oh, and... | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/13/02 4:01 p.m. | |
Re: Oh, and... | Smasher | 1/13/02 7:29 p.m. | |
Re: Oh, and... | SiliconDream =PN= | 1/13/02 10:55 p.m. |
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