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Re: Dissenting opinion
Posted By: herecomethej2000Date: 8/6/07 4:33 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Dissenting opinion (Mark Levin)

: Honestly, if it was up to me, I'd want to sift through the past ten years of
: map development and pick out the ones that are absolute classics. No
: offense to the skilled mapmakers working right now, but a proven map must
: have a certain something that would make it a better fit for a platform
: where modification is so very difficult and time-consuming. A map that's
: already stood the test of time is likely to continue to do so, and given
: that no matter what there will be relatively little XBLA content compared
: to the community output as a whole, we have to try as hard as we can to
: select the very best of the very best that the most people will enjoy.

: But as before, it's not up to me.

Well honestly you would be sifting thorugh alot of maps most of which have been regared by the comunity as junk, the only maps that would fit that criteria are a couple in the Corolis Loop mappack. And even they are not played all that often nor hold a candle to maps that have been made with in the last couple of years. There really are no old maps being played. This is because techniques and ideas have gotten better and have evolved with the demands behind internet play as opposed to local network games where players would be more patient/forgiving as they are with freinds in the same room. This is oppose to strangers dukeing it out and suddenly where gameplay is EVREYTHING. Beleive me, suddenly mapmaking is a highly contested form of art where there are basic conventions and evreything. Also there are no good M2 maps currently and maps to be submited would have to undergo slight tweeking.

All maps that are being played constantly on the A1 multiplayer, because they have been deemed by the comunity as "truely excellent," are in the map packs Red Spectrum, Revel, Second Quest, and a few others. The only thing is, the criteria for Freeverse for accepting these maps would need to be known. Would the makers of these maps have to give all rights of the map to Freeverse ect? In which case map makers would hesitate giving maps made for and already cherished by the comuinty. However maps made directly for use with the XBOX 360 port would avoid this. Sure the rules of the proposed contest could include maps that have already been made before hand, In which case the map maker knows full well any restrictions and accepts them.

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Fan based map package for Xbox 360 portherecomethej2000 7/19/07 6:40 a.m.
     Re: Fan based map package for Xbox 360 portKinetic Turtle 7/19/07 8:00 a.m.
     Re: Fan based map package for Xbox 360 portAndrew Nagy 7/24/07 3:12 p.m.
     Re: Fan based map package for Xbox 360 portherecomethej2000 8/6/07 10:15 a.m.
           Re: Fan based map package for Xbox 360 portWindbreaker 8/6/07 10:46 a.m.
           Re: Fan based map package for Xbox 360 porttreellama 8/6/07 11:38 a.m.
                 [citation needed] *NM*Andrew Nagy 8/6/07 11:42 a.m.
                       Re: [citation needed]treellama 8/6/07 12:08 p.m.
                             Dissenting opinionQuantum 8/6/07 12:55 p.m.
                                   Re: Dissenting opinionMark Levin 8/6/07 2:43 p.m.
                                         Re: Dissenting opinionherecomethej2000 8/6/07 4:33 p.m.
                                               Re: Dissenting opinionherecomethej2000 8/6/07 4:58 p.m.
                                               Re: Dissenting opinionherecomethej2000 8/7/07 4:43 a.m.
                                               Re: Dissenting opinionClaude Errera 8/7/07 1:57 p.m.
                                                     i agree with you, Claude. *NM*Johannes Gunnar 8/7/07 2:17 p.m.
                                                     Re: Dissenting opinionherecomethej2000 8/7/07 2:51 p.m.
                                                     Re: Dissenting opinionRyokoTK 8/7/07 4:45 p.m.
                                                           Re: Dissenting opinionClaude Errera 8/7/07 9:00 p.m.
                                                                 also http://marathon.bungie.org/motm/ mb? *NM*Document 8/7/07 9:38 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Dissenting opinionVid Boi 8/10/07 8:28 a.m.
                                                     Re: Dissenting opinionD-M.A. 8/7/07 6:31 p.m.
                                                           RyokoTK versus D-M.A.! FIGHT! *NM*Andrew Nagy 8/7/07 6:57 p.m.
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                                                                       ...the good old daysJohannes Gunnar 8/8/07 10:49 a.m.
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                                         Re: Dissenting opinionRyokoTK 8/6/07 5:37 p.m.
                                               Re: Dissenting opinionQuantum 8/6/07 6:36 p.m.
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                                                           Re: Dissenting opiniontreellama 8/7/07 6:22 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Dissenting opinionherecomethej2000 8/7/07 12:09 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Dissenting opiniontreellama 8/7/07 1:37 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Dissenting opinionherecomethej2000 8/8/07 5:29 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Dissenting opinion *NM* *LINK*eX brutaLis 8/7/07 10:07 p.m.
                                                           Re: Dissenting opinionJohannes Gunnar 8/7/07 6:44 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Dissenting opinionherecomethej2000 8/7/07 12:21 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Dissenting opinionRyokoTK 8/7/07 4:42 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Dissenting opinionClaude Errera 8/7/07 9:01 p.m.
                                                                             Enough of thisherecomethej2000 8/8/07 5:15 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Dissenting opinionRyokoTK 8/8/07 9:29 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Dissenting opinionClaude Errera 8/9/07 6:32 p.m.
                                                                                         Next time I suggest hiring Gary. *NM*Andrew Nagy 8/9/07 7:40 p.m.
                                                                                               Who?Andrew Nagy 1/15/20 8:19 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Who?Godot 1/15/20 10:52 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Who?Andrew Nagy 1/16/20 7:06 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Who?Forrest of B.org 1/16/20 11:01 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Dissenting opinionForrest of B.org 8/9/07 10:12 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Dissenting opinionRyokoTK 8/10/07 6:31 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Dissenting opinion *LINK*Andrew Nagy 8/10/07 6:45 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Dissenting opinion (read this one instead) *LINK*Andrew Nagy 8/10/07 6:53 p.m.
                                                                                                     please read...Johannes Gunnar 8/10/07 7:32 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: please read...FullDiaper 8/10/07 10:23 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: please read...thermoplyae 8/11/07 6:40 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: please read...treellama 8/12/07 3:16 a.m.
                                                                                                                       oh genius *NM*thermoplyae 8/12/07 6:46 a.m.
                                                                                                     Actually, on further thoughtAndrew Nagy 8/11/07 6:12 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Actually, on further thoughtRyokoTK 8/11/07 11:57 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Dissenting opinion (read this one instead)RyokoTK 8/11/07 11:56 a.m.
                                                                                                           PLEASE TAKE ALL YOUR FLAME WARS TO XBOX LIVE *NM*ukimalefu 8/11/07 12:18 p.m.
                                                                                                           Anyone else want to take this one? *NM*Andrew Nagy 8/11/07 1:42 p.m.
                                                                                                                 *facepalm*RyokoTK 8/11/07 5:14 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Dissenting opinion (read this one instead)Forrest of B.org 8/11/07 7:13 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Dissenting opinion (read this one instead)D-M.A. 8/11/07 9:08 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Only the Sith deal in absolutesukimalefu 8/11/07 11:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: Dissenting opinion (read this one instead)RyokoTK 8/12/07 10:37 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Dissenting opinion (read this one instead)Andrew Nagy 1/13/20 6:48 p.m.
                                                                                                                 formattingAndrew Nagy 1/13/20 6:49 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Dissenting opinionQuantum 8/10/07 11:39 p.m.
                                                                                         Internet: Serious Business. *NM*AfroRyan 8/14/07 12:25 p.m.
                                                                       Factual correctionAndrew Nagy 8/10/07 12:20 p.m.
                                                                             *or more accurately. *NM*Andrew Nagy 8/10/07 12:53 p.m.

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