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Posted By: MrHen | Date: 12/16/06 6:35 a.m. | |
In Response To: Re: hehe, Infinity (treellama) : The only way the set of rational numbers could be "bigger", is if
Now I think I vaguely remember why the reals are "larger". Does this sound right? When looking at and comparing reals and integers there is no one-to-one correspondence (bijection?) between them. Looking at the integer "1" we can say that the next number is "2". There is no such "next number" on the real line. The number after "1" is... what? The rational number have a strict definition involving integers on integers which gives them an ordered progression. The reals have no such thing. There are an infinite number of numbers between "1" and "2" and trying to find them all would be an utter waste of time. The key is not which "numbers" are in the set but the size of the set. I vaguely remember trying to think of it as how fast the set is growing instead of how many numbers are in the set. The infinite set of reals grows infinitely faster than the infinite set of integers. The latter grows at the same speed as the rationals. Does that sound right?
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The Garden of Forking Paths | Document | 11/29/06 8:50 p.m. | |
Re: The Garden of Forking Paths | Forrest of B.org | 11/29/06 10:11 p.m. | |
*sniff* Duality *sniff *NM* | treellama | 11/30/06 2:51 a.m. | |
That's not fair. | RyokoTK | 11/30/06 5:26 a.m. | |
Re: That's not fair. | McNutcase | 11/30/06 5:40 a.m. | |
Re: That's not fair. | RyokoTK | 11/30/06 8:51 a.m. | |
Re: That's not fair. | McNutcase | 11/30/06 9:25 a.m. | |
Re: That's not fair. | RyokoTK | 11/30/06 9:59 a.m. | |
Re: That's not fair. | D-M.A. | 11/30/06 10:05 a.m. | |
Re: That's not fair. | RyokoTK | 11/30/06 10:22 a.m. | |
Ahaa, I see what you mean now, point taken. *NM* | D-M.A. | 11/30/06 10:33 a.m. | |
define "well" | MrHen | 11/30/06 10:24 a.m. | |
Re: define "well" | RyokoTK | 11/30/06 11:31 a.m. | |
Re: define "well" | Aaron Sikes | 11/30/06 12:19 p.m. | |
Re: define "well" | Forrest of B.org | 11/30/06 1:26 p.m. | |
Re: define "well" | Aaron Sikes | 12/1/06 6:01 a.m. | |
Mmm... House of Leaves | MrHen | 11/30/06 8:00 a.m. | |
Re: The Garden of Forking Paths | Vid Boi | 11/30/06 8:13 a.m. | |
Re: The Garden of Forking Paths | sdwoodchuck | 11/30/06 12:39 p.m. | |
So, what was your conclusion? *NM* | Frungi | 11/30/06 3:57 p.m. | |
Re: So, what was your conclusion? | sdwoodchuck | 11/30/06 6:18 p.m. | |
in your theory, the dreams... | MrHen | 12/1/06 4:44 a.m. | |
Re: in your theory, the dreams... | thermoplyae | 12/1/06 6:42 a.m. | |
Re: So, what was your conclusion? | Frungi | 12/4/06 6:31 p.m. | |
Re: So, what was your conclusion? | Forrest of B.org | 12/4/06 9:07 p.m. | |
Time Travel and the Psychology of Gods | Forrest of B.org | 12/4/06 9:25 p.m. | |
Re: Time Travel and the Psychology of Gods | Frungi | 12/5/06 8:46 a.m. | |
Re: Time Travel and the Psychology of Gods | Forrest of B.org | 12/5/06 4:29 p.m. | |
heck, I would buy 'em | MrHen | 12/5/06 6:39 p.m. | |
Philosophy anyone? | Icarus | 12/6/06 8:29 a.m. | |
Re: Philosophy anyone? | Forrest of B.org | 12/6/06 10:46 a.m. | |
Re: The Garden of Forking Paths *LINK* | Hamish Sinclair | 12/2/06 5:06 a.m. | |
Re: The Garden of Forking Paths | Document | 12/2/06 6:17 p.m. | |
Re: The Garden of Forking Paths | Document | 12/4/06 7:03 p.m. | |
Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/7/06 7:00 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Bob-B-Q | 12/7/06 10:14 a.m. | |
Define "all" | MrHen | 12/7/06 10:20 a.m. | |
Re: Define "all" | Document | 12/7/06 4:20 p.m. | |
Re: Define "all" | Document | 12/7/06 4:21 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/11/06 10:28 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/11/06 12:00 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/11/06 12:03 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | MrHen | 12/11/06 1:45 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? *LINK* | Frungi | 12/11/06 3:22 p.m. | |
uh, thanks... | MrHen | 12/11/06 6:01 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/11/06 9:44 p.m. | |
I like being confused... | MrHen | 12/12/06 5:13 a.m. | |
Re: I like being confused... | Forrest of B.org | 12/12/06 3:53 p.m. | |
Re: I like being confused... | Frungi | 12/12/06 5:51 p.m. | |
Re: I like being confused... | Forrest of B.org | 12/12/06 9:42 p.m. | |
timelines and their glory | MrHen | 12/13/06 5:14 a.m. | |
Re: timelines and their glory | Forrest of B.org | 12/13/06 8:05 a.m. | |
Mmm... trippy... | MrHen | 12/13/06 8:20 a.m. | |
Re: timelines and their glory | Frungi | 12/13/06 1:43 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/12/06 12:37 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/12/06 4:02 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/12/06 4:43 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/12/06 9:52 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/13/06 4:17 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/13/06 6:06 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/16/06 5:42 p.m. | |
what? why? | MrHen | 12/16/06 5:47 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | kyjel | 12/16/06 6:40 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/17/06 4:13 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Frungi | 12/18/06 5:09 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/18/06 8:47 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Frungi | 12/18/06 9:22 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/22/06 9:58 a.m. | |
questions and answers | MrHen | 12/22/06 12:44 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/22/06 1:24 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/18/06 10:21 p.m. | |
rabbit trail, sorry... | MrHen | 12/13/06 5:23 a.m. | |
Re: rabbit trail, sorry... | Chris Biberstein | 12/13/06 4:29 p.m. | |
and the problem was... where? | MrHen | 12/13/06 7:06 p.m. | |
Re: and the problem was... where? | Forrest of B.org | 12/13/06 9:13 p.m. | |
ah, my bad. I understand. :) *NM* | MrHen | 12/14/06 4:54 a.m. | |
Re: ah, my bad. I understand. :) | Forrest of B.org | 12/14/06 1:22 p.m. | |
I am the same way. ;) | MrHen | 12/15/06 5:18 a.m. | |
Re: I am the same way. ;) | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 7:27 a.m. | |
Branching | MrHen | 12/15/06 9:46 a.m. | |
Re: Branching | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 11:04 a.m. | |
Actually, I think I did understand. | MrHen | 12/15/06 4:32 p.m. | |
Re: Actually, I think I did understand. | Forrest of B.org | 12/17/06 11:55 a.m. | |
Oh, okay, then we do disagree. | MrHen | 12/17/06 6:50 p.m. | |
Re: Oh, okay, then we do disagree. | Forrest of B.org | 12/17/06 10:08 p.m. | |
so where do you get hyper-time? | MrHen | 12/18/06 5:13 a.m. | |
Re: so where do you get hyper-time? | Forrest of B.org | 12/18/06 8:20 a.m. | |
whoops... no... that is not what I meant. | MrHen | 12/18/06 9:49 a.m. | |
Re: whoops... no... that is not what I meant. | Forrest of B.org | 12/18/06 1:58 p.m. | |
right, yeah, that is the identity problem | MrHen | 12/18/06 4:41 p.m. | |
Re: right, yeah, that is the identity problem | Forrest of B.org | 12/18/06 9:55 p.m. | |
ohhh... | MrHen | 12/19/06 5:44 a.m. | |
Re: ohhh... | Forrest of B.org | 12/19/06 9:20 a.m. | |
back to the math ;) | MrHen | 12/19/06 11:07 a.m. | |
Re: back to the math ;) | Forrest of B.org | 12/19/06 1:36 p.m. | |
wait, so my model is too... real? ;) | MrHen | 12/22/06 1:57 p.m. | |
Sort of. | Forrest of B.org | 12/22/06 3:22 p.m. | |
and the light turns on... | MrHen | 1/7/07 4:41 p.m. | |
Re: and the light turns on... | Forrest of B.org | 1/8/07 8:12 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/13/06 8:11 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/13/06 4:34 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/14/06 8:01 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Frungi | 12/15/06 8:02 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 8:51 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Frungi | 12/15/06 9:22 a.m. | |
hehe, Infinity | MrHen | 12/15/06 9:51 a.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 11:16 a.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | treellama | 12/15/06 12:18 p.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 1:15 p.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | treellama | 12/15/06 2:09 p.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 3:15 p.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | treellama | 12/15/06 4:12 p.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | Frungi | 12/15/06 6:34 p.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | treellama | 12/16/06 3:38 a.m. | |
So... do I have this right? | MrHen | 12/16/06 6:35 a.m. | |
Re: So... do I have this right? | treellama | 12/16/06 11:25 a.m. | |
Re: hehe, Infinity | treellama | 12/15/06 2:21 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | treellama | 12/15/06 9:55 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | McNutcase | 12/15/06 11:12 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 1:20 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | McNutcase | 12/15/06 9:32 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | MrHen | 12/15/06 9:49 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | treellama | 12/15/06 9:56 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | McNutcase | 12/15/06 11:09 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 1:34 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/15/06 1:39 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | ukimalefu | 12/15/06 6:29 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | McNutcase | 12/15/06 10:23 p.m. | |
awesome, thanks! *NM* | MrHen | 12/16/06 6:49 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/16/06 5:51 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | kyjel | 12/16/06 7:08 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/18/06 8:36 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Frungi | 12/18/06 9:48 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/22/06 10:00 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/22/06 10:19 a.m. | |
what he said | MrHen | 12/22/06 12:38 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/18/06 10:23 p.m. | |
*sigh* | MrHen | 12/17/06 5:08 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Frungi | 12/11/06 3:35 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Chris Biberstein | 12/12/06 12:23 p.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Shoeless | 12/13/06 7:56 a.m. | |
Re: Official Bungie Canon? | Forrest of B.org | 12/13/06 8:32 a.m. | |
another example (albeit overused) | MrHen | 12/13/06 8:57 a.m. | |
Re: The Garden of Forking Paths *LINK* | irons | 2/23/18 1:11 a.m. | |
LOKE *NM* | W'rkncacnter | 2/23/18 4:06 p.m. | |
Re: LOKE *NM* *LINK* | irons | 2/23/18 4:14 p.m. | |
LOKE *NM* *NM* *NM* *NM* *NM* *LINK* | W'rkncacnter | 2/23/18 11:09 p.m. | |
Re: LOKE *NM* *LINK* | irons | 2/24/18 3:31 a.m. |
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