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Posted By: Steve Levinson Date: 2/2/04 9:37 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Who is your favorite map maker? (deathmonger)

: forgot: could someone point out some of the really good scenarios for me to
: download (I just finished the trilogy)? The big ones seam to be rubicon,
: evil, red, and trojan. Can anyone point out some other ones that would be
: a shame to miss?
Having just recently replayed through Red on the lowest difficulty, I have to say that much of its reputation comes from its insane difficulty. Don't get me wrong - there are aspects of Red that are incredibly cool and the sprite design is on a par with anything out there, but map design leaves a lot wanting and monster placement is a big, big problem. What I'm saying is, don't let Red get to you - it's not worth it - even the great Dr. John Sumner refused to vid it.
Now, as for can't miss Marathon experiences, you definitely wantto play Rubicon, Evil and Trojan as you already mentioned, but you should also definitely play Tempus Irae and TI 2. For all their flaws, thery're still among the best. A personal favorite is Pfh'Joueur, which is one of the most visually stunning scenarios ever done. I guess you've found Battle Cat's D-Day, which has some great gameplay and a cool stunt - being forced to repeat the first level if you fail your mission. Mark Levin's Vengeance is also a must play - still the only level to let you pilot a juggernaut. I really like Ben Potter's Marathon Fell, which has a very nice, nonlinear plot line and some great levels - although there are numerous small bugs, it doesn't significantly affect gameplay. The Black Series has some awsome maps, but a really crappy story - still a must-play. Excaliber, Morgana's Revenge (EMR) takes place outside of the Marathon Universe, but it's none the less a great scenario with a Camelot theme, but with levels ranging from prehistoric times to the distant future. Marathon Dissent is also outside the Marathon Universe, but a pretty good play and worthwhile. Except for Trojan, all of these are based on Infinity,
There some M1 scenarios that are notable as well, even though they precede Forge and Anvil, making them all the more remarkable. Trojan is absolutely the best of these and probably the only one that is ever compared to the later scenarios. Operation Tantilus remains the most highly nonlinear scenario to date - perhaps a bit to much so, as you can repeat some levels over and over - but it is well worth the download. Marathon Revisited - how old did you say your are? - is also very good, although it has some pornography.
There are also numerous short scnearios and single levels that are well worth mentioning, among them Escape!, Escape! 2, Devil in a Blue Dress, Foreign Legion and Kondoura for M2, and 1984, an AI Called Wanda, the Chai'etra Saga, Gemini Station, SoNK (also for M2) and Origin of the Species for Infinity. Operation Wormwood for M2 is supposed to be good, but it crashes on me in the second level. There are also a bunch of Earth-based short scenarios that many people like, but that I find too contrived. Finally, don't forget Goran's Yota Saga for AO - it's contrived story is based on an organized crime theme, but the mapmaking is truly original.
Well, that should keep you busy for a few years.

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Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 1/30/04 11:36 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 11:47 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/30/04 1:04 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 1:46 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Johannes Gunnar 1/30/04 2:11 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 7:29 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 7:36 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? the Battle Cat 1/31/04 6:27 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/31/04 6:32 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? the Battle Cat 2/1/04 6:59 a.m.

Praise?! :O oogaBooga 2/3/04 11:09 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/31/04 7:09 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/31/04 7:21 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/31/04 8:49 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? goran 1/31/04 11:17 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 1/31/04 1:47 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/31/04 6:42 p.m.

my big rubicon confession goran 2/1/04 12:02 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession goran 2/1/04 12:31 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/1/04 3:22 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Adam Ashwell 2/1/04 3:52 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession goran 2/2/04 1:08 a.m.

FM's review goran 2/2/04 1:51 a.m.

Re: FM's review D-M.A. 2/2/04 3:01 a.m.

Re: FM's review Yossarian 2/2/04 5:04 a.m.

Re: FM's review Steve Levinson 2/2/04 5:25 a.m.

Re: FM's review oogaBooga 2/3/04 11:23 a.m.

Re: FM's review Steve Levinson 2/3/04 1:10 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/2/04 5:23 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Elliott 2/2/04 9:41 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession the Battle Cat 2/2/04 11:08 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/2/04 3:00 p.m.

That sounds like a plan! =) *NM* the Battle Cat 2/3/04 7:06 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Adam Ashwell 2/2/04 11:30 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession the Battle Cat 2/2/04 9:35 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/2/04 11:02 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession C Lund 2/3/04 1:03 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/3/04 5:20 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Dr. John Sumner 2/3/04 9:25 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/3/04 11:04 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession C Lund 2/3/04 2:50 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession the Battle Cat 2/3/04 7:46 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession C Lund 2/3/04 2:55 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Vid Boi 1/31/04 4:34 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 1/31/04 7:56 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? deathmonger 2/2/04 7:23 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? deathmonger 2/2/04 7:32 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 2/2/04 9:20 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 2/2/04 9:37 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 2/2/04 9:59 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? D-M.A. 2/3/04 12:52 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 2/3/04 8:16 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? deathmonger 2/2/04 11:25 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? the Battle Cat 2/3/04 8:03 a.m.

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: Having just recently replayed through Red on the lowest difficulty, I have to : say that much of its reputation comes from its insane difficulty. Don't : get me wrong - there are aspects of Red that are incredibly cool and the : sprite design is on a par with anything out there, but map design leaves a : lot wanting and monster placement is a big, big problem. What I'm saying : is, don't let Red get to you - it's not worth it - even the great Dr. John : Sumner refused to vid it. : Now, as for can't miss Marathon experiences, you definitely wantto play : Rubicon, Evil and Trojan as you already mentioned, but you should also : definitely play Tempus Irae and TI 2. For all their flaws, thery're still : among the best. A personal favorite is Pfh'Joueur, which is one of the : most visually stunning scenarios ever done. I guess you've found Battle : Cat's D-Day, which has some great gameplay and a cool stunt - being forced : to repeat the first level if you fail your mission. Mark Levin's Vengeance : is also a must play - still the only level to let you pilot a juggernaut. : I really like Ben Potter's Marathon Fell, which has a very nice, nonlinear : plot line and some great levels - although there are numerous small bugs, : it doesn't significantly affect gameplay. The Black Series has some awsome : maps, but a really crappy story - still a must-play. Excaliber, Morgana's : Revenge (EMR) takes place outside of the Marathon Universe, but it's none : the less a great scenario with a Camelot theme, but with levels ranging : from prehistoric times to the distant future. Marathon Dissent is also : outside the Marathon Universe, but a pretty good play and worthwhile. : Except for Trojan, all of these are based on Infinity, : There some M1 scenarios that are notable as well, even though they precede : Forge and Anvil, making them all the more remarkable. Trojan is absolutely : the best of these and probably the only one that is ever compared to the : later scenarios. Operation Tantilus remains the most highly nonlinear : scenario to date - perhaps a bit to much so, as you can repeat some levels : over and over - but it is well worth the download. Marathon Revisited - : how old did you say your are? - is also very good, although it has some : pornography. : There are also numerous short scnearios and single levels that are well worth : mentioning, among them Escape!, Escape! 2, Devil in a Blue Dress, Foreign : Legion and Kondoura for M2, and 1984, an AI Called Wanda, the Chai'etra : Saga, Gemini Station, SoNK (also for M2) and Origin of the Species for : Infinity. Operation Wormwood for M2 is supposed to be good, but it crashes : on me in the second level. There are also a bunch of Earth-based short : scenarios that many people like, but that I find too contrived. Finally, : don't forget Goran's Yota Saga for AO - it's contrived story is based on : an organized crime theme, but the mapmaking is truly original. : Well, that should keep you busy for a few years.

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Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/30/04 11:36 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 11:47 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/30/04 1:04 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 1:46 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Johannes Gunnar	1/30/04 2:11 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 7:29 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 7:36 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	1/31/04 6:27 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/31/04 6:32 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	2/1/04 6:59 a.m.
Praise?! :O	oogaBooga	2/3/04 11:09 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 7:09 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/31/04 7:21 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 8:49 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	goran	1/31/04 11:17 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/31/04 1:47 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 6:42 p.m.
my big rubicon confession	goran	2/1/04 12:02 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	goran	2/1/04 12:31 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/1/04 3:22 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Adam Ashwell	2/1/04 3:52 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	goran	2/2/04 1:08 a.m.
FM's review	goran	2/2/04 1:51 a.m.
Re: FM's review	D-M.A.	2/2/04 3:01 a.m.
Re: FM's review	Yossarian	2/2/04 5:04 a.m.
Re: FM's review	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 5:25 a.m.
Re: FM's review	oogaBooga	2/3/04 11:23 a.m.
Re: FM's review	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 1:10 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 5:23 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Elliott	2/2/04 9:41 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/2/04 11:08 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 3:00 p.m.
That sounds like a plan! =) NM	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 7:06 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Adam Ashwell	2/2/04 11:30 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/2/04 9:35 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 11:02 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 1:03 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 5:20 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Dr. John Sumner	2/3/04 9:25 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 11:04 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 2:50 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 7:46 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 2:55 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Vid Boi	1/31/04 4:34 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/31/04 7:56 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 7:23 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 7:32 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/2/04 9:20 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 9:37 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/2/04 9:59 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	D-M.A.	2/3/04 12:52 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/3/04 8:16 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 11:25 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 8:03 a.m.



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	Message: : Having just recently replayed through Red on the lowest difficulty, I have to : say that much of its reputation comes from its insane difficulty. Don't : get me wrong - there are aspects of Red that are incredibly cool and the : sprite design is on a par with anything out there, but map design leaves a : lot wanting and monster placement is a big, big problem. What I'm saying : is, don't let Red get to you - it's not worth it - even the great Dr. John : Sumner refused to vid it. : Now, as for can't miss Marathon experiences, you definitely wantto play : Rubicon, Evil and Trojan as you already mentioned, but you should also : definitely play Tempus Irae and TI 2. For all their flaws, thery're still : among the best. A personal favorite is Pfh'Joueur, which is one of the : most visually stunning scenarios ever done. I guess you've found Battle : Cat's D-Day, which has some great gameplay and a cool stunt - being forced : to repeat the first level if you fail your mission. Mark Levin's Vengeance : is also a must play - still the only level to let you pilot a juggernaut. : I really like Ben Potter's Marathon Fell, which has a very nice, nonlinear : plot line and some great levels - although there are numerous small bugs, : it doesn't significantly affect gameplay. The Black Series has some awsome : maps, but a really crappy story - still a must-play. Excaliber, Morgana's : Revenge (EMR) takes place outside of the Marathon Universe, but it's none : the less a great scenario with a Camelot theme, but with levels ranging : from prehistoric times to the distant future. Marathon Dissent is also : outside the Marathon Universe, but a pretty good play and worthwhile. : Except for Trojan, all of these are based on Infinity, : There some M1 scenarios that are notable as well, even though they precede : Forge and Anvil, making them all the more remarkable. Trojan is absolutely : the best of these and probably the only one that is ever compared to the : later scenarios. Operation Tantilus remains the most highly nonlinear : scenario to date - perhaps a bit to much so, as you can repeat some levels : over and over - but it is well worth the download. Marathon Revisited - : how old did you say your are? - is also very good, although it has some : pornography. : There are also numerous short scnearios and single levels that are well worth : mentioning, among them Escape!, Escape! 2, Devil in a Blue Dress, Foreign : Legion and Kondoura for M2, and 1984, an AI Called Wanda, the Chai'etra : Saga, Gemini Station, SoNK (also for M2) and Origin of the Species for : Infinity. Operation Wormwood for M2 is supposed to be good, but it crashes : on me in the second level. There are also a bunch of Earth-based short : scenarios that many people like, but that I find too contrived. Finally, : don't forget Goran's Yota Saga for AO - it's contrived story is based on : an organized crime theme, but the mapmaking is truly original. : Well, that should keep you busy for a few years.
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