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	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?
	Posted By: Adam Ashwell	Date: 1/31/04 7:21 a.m.
	In Response To: Re: Who is your favorite map maker? (Steve Levinson) Oh, THAT Chris Lund, heh heh, I knew THAT *looks from side to side nervously*. So he made almost all of the Salinger maps. Alright, I've gotta hand it to him, those are some pretty damn great maps. And I agree completly about FrigidMan's arrogance. : It's a lot easier to mention the maps that Chris didn't make in Rubicon, as : he did the vast majority of the work and tweaked everything else. The maps : not done by Chris include: Jeff Schwartz (aka DOA) : Honk if you're an underpaid Cyborg : Five Finger Discount : Tim Thomas : Hex Level 73 : Beg, Borrow and Steal : Chris Wondra : People under the stairs : Prize Payment Schedule : Just a little further : iwannavacuum : Of the above levels, I think substantial credit has to be given to DOA for 2 : outstanding levels, and Tim Thomas' 2 levels are among my absolute : favorites, although most people seem to revile these levels - the stacking : of layers upon layers makes map view useless. : Everything else is pure Chris, and among them are some really exceptional : levels - Frog Blasting/Blasted Frogs, Exit Leads In and Wading in/Drinking : Vitriol to name a few. Chris considers Hell Pfhor You to be his absolute : best level, and I also would list it among my favorites. Yes, it's : horrendously difficult, but Chris provides an out - a secret path that : makes the level beatable by any good player. Chris' imagination and his : use of asymmetric designs leads to some really outstanding gameplay, and : his texturing and monster placement are supurb, subject to the limitations : already mentioned. He may not be an innovator, but his work is first rate. : The last time we had this discussion (it's come up many times in the forum), : I also mentioned FM as perhaps the best overall. Unfortunately, his : arrogance which is evident in his secret terminals and in his postings on : Fireball have brought him down a notch or two in my mind. Chris, on the : other hand, is very approachable if not entirely modest. Still, if you're : talking about innovation, FM is the absolute star.

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	Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/30/04 11:36 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 11:47 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/30/04 1:04 p.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 1:46 p.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Johannes Gunnar	1/30/04 2:11 p.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 7:29 p.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 7:36 p.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	1/31/04 6:27 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/31/04 6:32 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	2/1/04 6:59 a.m.
	Praise?! :O	oogaBooga	2/3/04 11:09 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 7:09 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/31/04 7:21 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 8:49 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	goran	1/31/04 11:17 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/31/04 1:47 p.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 6:42 p.m.
	my big rubicon confession	goran	2/1/04 12:02 p.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	goran	2/1/04 12:31 p.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/1/04 3:22 p.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Adam Ashwell	2/1/04 3:52 p.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	goran	2/2/04 1:08 a.m.
	FM's review	goran	2/2/04 1:51 a.m.
	Re: FM's review	D-M.A.	2/2/04 3:01 a.m.
	Re: FM's review	Yossarian	2/2/04 5:04 a.m.
	Re: FM's review	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 5:25 a.m.
	Re: FM's review	oogaBooga	2/3/04 11:23 a.m.
	Re: FM's review	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 1:10 p.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 5:23 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Elliott	2/2/04 9:41 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/2/04 11:08 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 3:00 p.m.
	That sounds like a plan! =) *NM*	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 7:06 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Adam Ashwell	2/2/04 11:30 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/2/04 9:35 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 11:02 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 1:03 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 5:20 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Dr. John Sumner	2/3/04 9:25 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 11:04 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 2:50 p.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 7:46 a.m.
	Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 2:55 p.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Vid Boi	1/31/04 4:34 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/31/04 7:56 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 7:23 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 7:32 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/2/04 9:20 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 9:37 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/2/04 9:59 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	D-M.A.	2/3/04 12:52 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/3/04 8:16 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 11:25 a.m.
	Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 8:03 a.m.

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