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Posted By: RyanmanDate: 1/8/04 8:56 p.m.

In Response To: Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to re (Steve Levinson)

: You can have a scenario without a story - not a great one, but one you can
: play and maybe enjoy. You absolutely cannot have a scenario withoug
: maps, however. We all complain about scenarios that seem to be cobbled
: together from a bunch of maps with a crappy story to try to pull it all
: together, but at least it's something. My very strong advice is that if
: you have a good group of dedicated mapmakers , toss the plot around until
: it really sounds right, then make the maps to go with it. Once you have a
: purpose and once you have maps, then you can think about new textures,
: new weapons and new monsters to kill. Everyone seems to get it backwards.
: They come up with a rather contrived story, then start thinking about all
: the neat things they can do with it, put up a website, dream up new
: weapons, etc. They put so much energy into sprite, texture and map
: development that they're burned out before they ever get to the real meat
: of the scenario - the maps. Maps can always be retextured and repopulated
: later, but they won't build themselves from your beautiful textures and
: sprites. And don't start work on the website until the scenario's in the
: hands of the beta testers - that's the time to start building hype.

: Once again, if you have a story but don't have the skills or the time to turn
: it into a scenario, flesh out the story fully and submit it to MaraFF.
: There's some great stuff over there and you'll be helping to keep the
: dream alive. Or give serious thought to combining your scenario with
: someone else's - how do you think that Rubicon ended up with two disparate
: planks?

Speaking only as a player, I wish this post was required reading for all scenario authors. When you read a post of what someone has completed for their scenario and "maps" isn't at or near the top of the list...well, that's kiss of death time.

I have never understood the desire to focus so much energy on new weapons, textures & monsters. The map's the thing! Many, many great scenarios have no (or very few) new elements beyond great maps. When I want to play Marathon I want to play MARATHON. But, I'm a hopeless purist...

Ryan

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ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to read.Todd 1/8/04 2:20 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reSteve Levinson 1/8/04 4:45 a.m.
     Extremely cool graphic! *NM*the Battle Cat 1/8/04 5:45 a.m.
           Downright MullinsesqueCallie21V 1/8/04 11:28 a.m.
                 Re: Downright Mullinsesquezudo 1/9/04 2:24 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reJohannes Gunnar 1/8/04 7:19 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reelliott 1/8/04 8:24 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reMaxX 1/8/04 11:27 a.m.
     As a fan/player,Mista_B 1/8/04 1:07 p.m.
           Re: As a fan/player,the Battle Cat 1/9/04 7:05 a.m.
                 Re: As a fan/player,zudo 1/9/04 7:35 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reAdam Ashwell 1/8/04 1:56 p.m.
           Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reAdam Ashwell 1/8/04 2:04 p.m.
           Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reJohannes Gunnar 1/8/04 2:08 p.m.
                 Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reSteve Levinson 1/8/04 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reRyanman 1/8/04 8:56 p.m.
                       Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to rezudo 1/9/04 2:46 a.m.
                             Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reAdam Ashwell 1/10/04 9:41 a.m.
                                   Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to rezudo 1/11/04 12:34 a.m.
                                         Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reAdam Ashwell 1/11/04 2:41 a.m.
                                               Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to rezudo 1/11/04 4:20 a.m.
                       Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reJohannes Gunnar 1/9/04 8:57 a.m.
                             Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reD-M.A. 1/9/04 9:27 a.m.
                                   Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reJohannes Gunnar 1/9/04 9:55 a.m.
           Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to rezudo 1/9/04 2:26 a.m.
           Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reKRPY 1/9/04 4:21 p.m.
                 Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reAdam Ashwell 1/9/04 4:24 p.m.
                       Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reJohannes Gunnar 1/10/04 9:16 a.m.
                             Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reAdam Ashwell 1/10/04 9:31 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reSimon 1/8/04 3:27 p.m.
           Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to rethe Battle Cat 1/9/04 7:14 a.m.
                 Yeah!! *NM*Johannes Gunnar 1/9/04 9:00 a.m.
                 Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reSteve Levinson 1/9/04 9:11 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reMark Levin 1/8/04 4:16 p.m.
           Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reJames Smith 1/8/04 5:55 p.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to rethermoplyae 1/8/04 6:21 p.m.
     Thanks.Todd 1/8/04 9:30 p.m.
           Make a website for this!ukimalefu 1/8/04 10:09 p.m.
                 Re: Make a website for this!zudo 1/9/04 2:18 a.m.
                       Re: Make a website for this!ukimalefu 1/9/04 10:07 p.m.
                             Re: Make a website for this!zudo 1/10/04 1:53 a.m.
                 Re: Make a website for this!Adam Ashwell 1/9/04 12:04 p.m.
                 Re: Make a website for this!thermoplyae 1/9/04 4:37 p.m.
                 Re: Make a website for this!the Battle Cat 1/10/04 9:23 a.m.
           Re: Thanks.zudo 1/9/04 2:19 a.m.
     Re: ATTENTION: I'd like every scenario maker to reTych-Psych 1/9/04 7:41 p.m.
           i hope you aren't looking at me.. :-P *NM*Johannes Gunnar 1/10/04 9:21 a.m.

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