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	Re: ironic...
	Posted By: RyokoTK	Date: 12/12/06 6:43 a.m.
	In Response To: ironic... (MrHen) : Did anyone else think it was ironic that the topic immediately before this : was "I can win at KOTH too". Well, that was a joke. In retrospect, though, I could have made that more obvious. : There is nothing necessarily wrong with self-confidence or pride. A : superiority complex is a little touchy because there is a danger that you : begin to value other people based on how they compare to you. I see that : as very bad thing, not because of how it affects you but how it may affect : others around you. Okay, but I can't think of any instance where I actually put people down because they don't compare to me, so a lot of people seem to be feeling insecure and extracting more than what's there from what I do say. It's just irritating. If I try to be prideful, I'm a bad guy. If I pose my opinions, I'm being selfish (what?). If I suggest my own maps, I'm being vain. I guess it actually doesn't even bother me that much; it's just obnoxious, and it gets pretty silly. : There is a balance between placing a lot of value on my own opinion and : de-valuing other's opinions. It is good to think you have something : valuable to say, especially if it is valuable, but I do think there are : problems with automatically thinking your opinion is worth more than any : other opinion. If people can't tell that my opinion is just an ordinary ol' opinion, then that's their fault, not mine. : This is bad because the guy probably does not care what you think. He wants : to know about the quality of the map. You may have some valuable input but : in the end, you hold one opinion. If you honestly think that your opinions : dictate what is and is not a good map, than you probably do have a : superiority complex. : The different would be if you said, "Ugh, I hate maps like this. I think : they are terrible. But some people seem to enjoy them, so whatever." : Forrest expounded on this area rather well. Except that's completely ridiculous. If somebody asked me what I thought about a map, and it sucked, I would say something like that. (Well, maybe not "it sucks!", but you get the idea.) I'm not going to say "But some people like it," because that's not what he asked me. That's not what, for example, Fileball reviews ask me. Fileball reviews ask me to review the map, and obviously that's a very personally opinionated outlet. Contradicting what I say by saying "but everyone else likes it" generally weakens the argument, unless the only reason that I don't like a map is just because I don't like it, and not because it has problems. Example: "Big Screen Satellite" from Underworld Y. I don't like this map very much, and because I wrote a review of Underworld (not the Y version, though), I'm using the review as an outlet for what I think. That's why it's my review; that's why it's credited to me. If someone thinks that I'm a big stinky douche and my opinions suck, then he's completely welcome to write his own review. But I always try to address maps in the most objective way possible -- i.e. "This map features X. X isn't very good because of Y." As I said in my response to Fobo's college thesis, I don't need to cushion that with "I don't think X is very good," because it's redundant and weakens the review. : Yes, it is disrespect. This is probably where a lot of the misconceptions : come from. Regardless of whether the disrespect is well-deserved or not, : talking down may not be the best course of action. It hurts feelings, gets : people ticked off, but worse, it does not help the idiots recover from : their foolishness. It makes them bitter, not better. It's impossible to gain the respect of idiots who disrespect you, so I don't even bother. : There is nothing wrong with a little pride, but there is a fine line in : there somewhere. No one likes to hear someone brag about themselves. At : least, I have never met anyone who does. Some fun trash-talking is okay, : but who likes to hear someone complimenting themselves? : Pride is fine, to a point, but bragging is worthless. I would question why : you do it at all. Is it to make yourself feel superior? I would guess not. : You already feel superior. Is it to put people in their place? There are : better, less combative ways to do that. For the record, I don't brag or talk trash (except in jest to my friends). So, moving on. : There is a misconception that because people do not have to listen to someone : they can ignore them or forget what they have said. If you rip into : someone who created a map, they are not able to ignore it or forget it. Really? People rip into my maps, and I ignore them fairly easily. : There is also a misconception that being vocal is bad. Being vocal is fine. I : think it is bad to continually vocalize things in a negative manner. I do : not think it is all your fault. Really, I do not. I generally have no : problem with people who think they are all that. The only time I mind is : when I think they are wrong about themselves. And even then, I just ignore : them. I don't vocalize negatively as a general trend, I just vocalize negatively about things that deserve a negative response. That just tends to be a lot of things in my book. I can't really help that. : All in all, I think the problem lies more with your blunt and harsh delivery : than with how you view yourself. Pride is okay. Conceit... a bit more : controversial. But if people feel uncomfortable around you, it is not a : bad thing to wonder why. That's what I figured, in which case, I basically don't care. I'm of the opinion that blunt, harsh criticism is the strongest gift I can give (if someone asks for it, of course). That way, there's no room to misunderstand what I say, or to what degree I mean what I say, and they know exactly what I think -- and assuming that they asked, that's a good thing. Right?

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	Conceit	RyokoTK	12/11/06 9:21 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	Forrest of B.org	12/11/06 10:13 p.m.
	tl;dr *NM*	thermoplyae	12/11/06 11:06 p.m.
	lol *NM*	treellama	12/12/06 2:37 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/12/06 6:20 a.m.
	Hmm...	MrHen	12/12/06 8:34 a.m.
	Re: Hmm...	Forrest of B.org	12/12/06 3:17 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	Forrest of B.org	12/12/06 3:34 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	thermoplyae	12/12/06 10:38 a.m.
	:) *NM*	MrHen	12/12/06 12:02 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	kyjel	12/12/06 12:21 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	McNutcase	12/12/06 1:56 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	Vid Boi	12/12/06 2:16 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/12/06 6:22 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	Nicholai	12/14/06 12:17 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	goran	12/12/06 2:21 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	treellama	12/12/06 2:55 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/12/06 6:26 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	irons	12/12/06 6:34 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	McNutcase	12/12/06 8:13 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/12/06 8:59 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	McNutcase	12/12/06 10:00 a.m.
	Hypocrisy...	MrHen	12/12/06 8:40 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	D-M.A.	12/12/06 5:15 a.m.
	You're my favorite brain fart *NM*	Tycho	12/12/06 8:35 p.m.
	You're my favorite too!!! *NM*	D-M.A.	12/15/06 7:31 a.m.
	ironic...	MrHen	12/12/06 5:52 a.m.
	Re: ironic...	RyokoTK	12/12/06 6:43 a.m.
	Fools and their feelings.	MrHen	12/12/06 9:02 a.m.
	Re: ironic...	ukimalefu	12/12/06 4:40 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	Sammy Jenkins	12/12/06 3:36 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/12/06 4:35 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	Sammy Jenkins	12/12/06 4:43 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/12/06 4:47 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	treellama	12/13/06 2:48 a.m.
	*shudder*	MrHen	12/13/06 5:04 a.m.
	Re: *shudder*	RyokoTK	12/13/06 5:39 a.m.
	*sigh* fair enough. your life, not mine. *NM*	MrHen	12/13/06 5:48 a.m.
	Re: *shudder*	goran	12/13/06 7:43 a.m.
	Re: *shudder*	RyokoTK	12/13/06 8:28 a.m.
	Re: *shudder*	LegacyTyphoon	12/14/06 8:36 a.m.
	Re: *shudder*	goran	12/14/06 9:41 a.m.
	Re: *shudder*	RyokoTK	12/14/06 10:59 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	irons	12/12/06 5:08 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	Tycho	12/12/06 8:34 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	Screamingfool	12/13/06 11:12 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	Nicholai	12/13/06 9:20 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	Sammy Jenkins	12/13/06 10:41 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/14/06 4:29 a.m.
	Re: Conceit	Nicholai	12/14/06 12:08 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	LegacyTyphoon	12/14/06 8:45 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	RyokoTK	12/14/06 9:12 p.m.
	Re: Conceit	LegacyTyphoon	12/14/06 9:58 p.m.
	lol *NM*	Nicholai	12/15/06 6:08 p.m.

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