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Re: Best 3rd pary scenario
Posted By: Little KagoDate: 3/29/04 8:28 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Best 3rd pary scenario (Steve Levinson)

: I'm not sure what it is you're looking for in gameplay that you don't find
: in Rubicon but do in TI.

well, frigidman's review of rubicon sums up what i think awfully well. i really hate to sound like a me-too'er, but i don't know what i can add that he didn't say (except maybe some vehement swearing and cursing). no flow and no fun makes jack an extremely unhappy gamer. and bad lighting and dull textures make him even unhappier.

what do i find in TI that i don't find in rubicon? i hate repeating myself, but the maps simply have no flow whatsoever. as borzz said on agm, "Consider flow like the path of a river - it starts somewhere and creates a path to its logical conclussion." - there's hardly any of that in rubicon; there, it's more like "splash into a huge lake and circulate around erratically and eventually dribble out somehere". usually a just a few minutes into each level i found myself just wandering aimlessly around killing things, wondering just where the hell i am, what the hell a certain switch is or isn't doing, and very quickly just wanting to GET THE HELL OFF the map on almost ALL of the levels. also, TC difficulty is not "challenging nearly or at the point of frustration but still fun" but "idiotically difficult and teeth-grinding, keyboard-smashing frustrating".

you'd have to be blind to not see the sincere work work people put into it. there are some clever tricks here and there, but i believe the rubicon team placed style and design priority way, waaayyyy over playability and enjoyability (or functionality - a clear example of where their priority lies would be those pathetic "maps" given in the walkthrough guide in the original install). i just do not believe it is the sum of its parts, not by a long shot.

: Pfh'Joueur is not the only scenario to have a
: non-combat first level - Evil does, too, and to an extent, so does EMR.
: The purpose for that level is to give the player a chance to explore the
: ship

of course pfh'joueur isn't the only one to do that - even plenty of modern fps games do that. but it's probably most tedious of any non-combat intro level i have ever played in any fps game. it seems also to be specifically designed to bore the player to tears. but allllright...i'll give it another go.

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                                               Out of curiosity . . .Steve Levinson 4/3/04 4:18 p.m.
                                                     Re: Out of curiosity . . .C Lund 4/3/04 8:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: Out of curiosity . . .C Lund 4/4/04 4:15 a.m.
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                                                                             Re: excuse? my ass. This is fun.C Lund 4/5/04 2:28 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: excuse? my ass. This is fun.D-M.A. 4/5/04 7:38 a.m.
                                                                       Re: excuse? my ass. This is fun.C Lund 4/5/04 2:25 a.m.
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                                                                                               Re: excuse? my ass. This is fun.Elliott 4/5/04 3:25 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: excuse? my ass. This is fun.goran 4/5/04 3:35 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: excuse? my ass. This is fun.Jacke 4/6/04 2:10 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: excuse? my ass. This is fun.C Lund 4/6/04 12:03 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Out of curiosity . . .Steve Levinson 4/4/04 5:14 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Out of curiosity . . .Elliott 4/4/04 9:11 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Out of curiosity . . .C Lund 4/5/04 2:30 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Out of curiosity . . .Steve Levinson 4/7/04 6:35 a.m.
                                                     Re: Out of curiosity . . .goran 4/4/04 8:13 a.m.

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