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Re: Prophet of Bad Voice Acting
Posted By: Gravemind <kuukan_no_kage@yahoo.com>Date: 9/13/09 2:49 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Prophet of Bad Voice Acting (Ragashingo)


: Regret landed on Delta Halo and immediately began a lengthy sermon in which
: he stated his intention to activate the ring. Clearly he believed in the
: Great Journey.

: Mercy flat out told the Chief that Truth was heading to Earth to finish what
: they started, saying that "... this time none of you will be left
: behind." He apparently thought that some were left behind before,
: meaning others weren't.

: If these two co-conspirators could still have believe in The Great Journey
: then why couldn't Truth?

: Truth, after all, had nearly thirty years to change his mind about the
: Covenant religion being false. He also had just recently discovered not
: one, but two Halos. If any discovery would be capable of shaking his faith
: that the Forerunners had not ascended it would be that.

For them to still believe their religion is true means to reject what Mendicant Bias told them, but if they did that then they wouldn't have bothered launching their "Kill All Humans!" campaign. They clearly believed what MB told them and set out to eradicate humanity as a response (see Contact Harvest, pgs. 273-278). Of course, fundamentalist variants of religion can result in believers holding multiple contradictory beliefs ("We're a religion of peace. Kill the heretics!"), so perhaps they still clung to their beliefs in the face of their own gods' creation telling them their faith is false but decided to kill humanity anyway (thus committing deicide) just to be safe (the masses could come to believe the Oracles over the Prophets and thus reject their faith, as the Heretic faction and eventually the Elites as a whole did).

Of course, there's very little to suggest that they didn't fully believe what MB said to them, and their sermons and other pious commentary were just posturing in order to keep the flock in line. I think it's just as likely that the Hierarchs knew full well on up to the end that their religion was false because of what MB said to them, but they'd rather kill everything, including themselves, than let the Covenant fall apart, as I explained in my post above.

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Prophet of Bad Voice ActingThe BS Police 9/12/09 8:50 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingTDSpiral 9/12/09 9:04 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingDHalo 9/12/09 9:18 p.m.
                 The Civil War was also his construction *NM*Metalingus627 9/12/09 9:26 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingTDSpiral 9/12/09 9:26 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingThe BS Police 9/12/09 10:26 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingDHalo 9/12/09 10:45 p.m.
                       ↑What he said.Gravemind 9/12/09 10:54 p.m.
                             Re: ↑What he said.Gravemind 9/12/09 10:56 p.m.
                             Re: ↑What he said.The BS Police 9/12/09 10:59 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRagashingo 9/13/09 1:38 a.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/13/09 2:49 a.m.
                                   You forget the word HereticRiceatron 9/13/09 9:45 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRagashingo 9/13/09 11:05 a.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/13/09 11:33 a.m.
                                               Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRiceatron 9/13/09 11:42 a.m.
                                                     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/13/09 11:50 a.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/13/09 4:17 p.m.
                                               Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingThe BS Police 9/13/09 4:48 p.m.
                                               Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRagashingo 9/13/09 5:48 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingDHalo 9/12/09 9:05 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGeneral Vagueness 9/12/09 10:04 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/12/09 10:16 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingNeloms 9/12/09 9:43 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingStephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/13/09 9:49 a.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingNeloms 9/13/09 1:59 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice Actingscarab 9/13/09 2:22 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice Actingelessar787 9/12/09 10:07 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/12/09 10:28 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingMetalingus627 9/12/09 10:37 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/12/09 11:12 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingLoneRanger 2.5 9/12/09 11:47 p.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingMetalingus627 9/13/09 10:39 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingCody Miller 9/14/09 2:21 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingMatt 9/13/09 9:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingStephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/13/09 10:07 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/13/09 10:32 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/13/09 4:45 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingMatt 9/14/09 2:17 a.m.
                                               Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/14/09 2:37 a.m.
                                                     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingLouis Wu 9/14/09 6:32 a.m.
                                                           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/14/09 7:39 a.m.
                                                           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingCody Miller 9/14/09 1:17 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/14/09 1:47 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingLouis Wu 9/14/09 4:16 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingCody Miller 9/14/09 4:21 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingLouis Wu 9/14/09 4:23 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingPriorMarcus 9/13/09 9:26 a.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRiceatron 9/13/09 10:32 a.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/13/09 10:41 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingPriorMarcus 9/13/09 12:10 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingDHalo 9/13/09 1:32 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingHikaru-119 9/13/09 1:41 p.m.
                                         Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingSonofMacPhisto 9/13/09 3:47 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice Actingscarab 9/14/09 3:42 a.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/14/09 4:11 a.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingMetalingus627 9/14/09 9:02 a.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingHikaru-119 9/14/09 12:54 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingThe BS Police 9/14/09 12:54 p.m.
     Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.Gravemind 9/12/09 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.The BS Police 9/12/09 10:28 p.m.
           Re: Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.Phoenix_9286 9/12/09 11:12 p.m.
           Re: Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.scarab 9/13/09 10:26 a.m.
                 Re: Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.Bry 9/13/09 10:57 a.m.
                       Re: Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.Riceatron 9/13/09 11:05 a.m.
                             Re: Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.Bry 9/13/09 11:23 a.m.
                                   Re: Fact: Wincott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stamp.Riceatron 9/13/09 11:47 a.m.
     Luke wrote Halo 3, wtf?MasterChief2829 9/12/09 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Luke wrote Halo 3, wtf?The BS Police 9/12/09 10:23 p.m.
                 Re: Luke wrote Halo 3, wtf?Elessar787 9/12/09 10:33 p.m.
                       Truth should be Anthony HopkinsRiceatron 9/12/09 10:46 p.m.
                 Re: Luke wrote Halo 3, wtf?LoneRanger 2.5 9/12/09 11:02 p.m.
                 Re: Luke wrote Halo 3, wtf?mehve 9/15/09 4:40 p.m.
                       Confirmed: Rob and Luke hate how Halo 3 turned out *NM*Ibeechu 9/15/09 4:45 p.m.
                             ... *NM*mehve 9/15/09 6:26 p.m.
                                   Don't mind him.Louis Wu 9/15/09 7:07 p.m.
           Re: Luke wrote Halo 3, wtf?ArteenEsben 9/12/09 11:17 p.m.
     Prophet of I Don't Have To Keep Up The ImageRiceatron 9/12/09 11:50 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRosco-128 9/13/09 12:16 a.m.
           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRiceatron 9/13/09 12:50 a.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingLoneRanger 2.5 9/13/09 2:51 a.m.
     Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott? *NM* *NM*Jayshum 9/13/09 8:39 a.m.
           Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?Ibeechu 9/13/09 11:21 a.m.
                 Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?Metalingus627 9/13/09 2:41 p.m.
                 Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?PriorMarcus 9/13/09 2:57 p.m.
                       "he accidentally had depth"Ibeechu 9/14/09 10:10 a.m.
                 Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?The BS Police 9/13/09 3:01 p.m.
                       Yes he was.Riceatron 9/13/09 3:10 p.m.
                             Re: No he wasn't.The BS Police 9/13/09 3:20 p.m.
                                   Re: No he wasn't.Bry 9/13/09 4:06 p.m.
                                   Sigh...Riceatron 9/13/09 5:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Sigh...General Vagueness 9/13/09 6:33 p.m.
                                         End of the dayBry 9/14/09 1:34 a.m.
                                               Re: End of the dayMetalingus627 9/14/09 2:32 a.m.
                                                     Re: End of the dayBry 9/14/09 2:49 a.m.
                                   Re: No he wasn't.Ragashingo 9/13/09 6:04 p.m.
                                   Re: No he wasn't.Narcogen 9/15/09 7:43 a.m.
                                         Re: No he wasn't.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/15/09 5:51 p.m.
                                               Re: No he wasn't.Narcogen 9/17/09 12:09 a.m.
                             Re: Yes he was.Ragashingo 9/13/09 5:56 p.m.
                                   Re: Yes he was.The Loot 9/13/09 6:44 p.m.
                 Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?ThorsHammer 9/14/09 1:05 a.m.
                       Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?Ibeechu 9/14/09 10:17 a.m.
                             Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?ThorsHammer 9/14/09 12:11 p.m.
                                   Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?Louis Wu 9/14/09 12:17 p.m.
                                         Re: Does anyone know why they replaced Wincott?ThorsHammer 9/14/09 3:57 p.m.
     Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingPriorMarcus 9/13/09 9:14 a.m.
           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingRiceatron 9/13/09 9:38 a.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBlueNinja 9/13/09 10:26 a.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/13/09 5:39 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBlueNinja 9/14/09 3:26 p.m.
           Re: Prophet of Bad Voice Actingscarab 9/13/09 10:44 a.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingPriorMarcus 9/13/09 12:25 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice Actingscarab 9/13/09 3:31 p.m.
                 Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/13/09 5:49 p.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingJ23 9/13/09 9:50 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingThe BS Police 9/13/09 11:18 p.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingGravemind 9/14/09 12:15 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingHedgemony 9/14/09 12:49 a.m.
                                   Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingBry 9/14/09 2:03 a.m.
                             Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingMetalingus627 9/14/09 2:27 a.m.
                       Re: Prophet of Bad Voice ActingIbeechu 9/14/09 10:24 a.m.
     Re: Post of Incorrect Logical Leapsurk 9/14/09 1:03 p.m.
           Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsMatt 9/14/09 2:08 p.m.
                 Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsAvateur 9/14/09 2:11 p.m.
                       Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsRiceatron 9/14/09 2:14 p.m.
                             Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsAvateur 9/14/09 2:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsMercury 9/14/09 4:55 p.m.
                                         Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsHikaru-119 9/14/09 5:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsSonofMacPhisto 9/14/09 5:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsRagashingo 9/14/09 5:22 p.m.
                       Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsThe BS Police 9/14/09 2:21 p.m.
                             Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsAvateur 9/14/09 2:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsPriorMarcus 9/14/09 2:26 p.m.
                                         Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsAvateur 9/14/09 2:29 p.m.
                                               Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsThe BS Police 9/14/09 2:34 p.m.
                                   Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsThe BS Police 9/14/09 2:29 p.m.
                                         Neither of you are trolls, calm downIbeechu 9/14/09 2:34 p.m.
                                         Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsAvateur 9/14/09 2:35 p.m.
                                               Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsThe BS Police 9/14/09 2:39 p.m.
                                                     Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsMatt 9/15/09 1:29 a.m.
                                                           Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsLouis Wu 9/15/09 6:30 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsSep7imus [subnova] 9/15/09 6:42 p.m.
                                               Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsPriorMarcus 9/14/09 3:13 p.m.
                                                     Aren't you supposed to be in hiding, Avateur?Riceatron 9/14/09 3:19 p.m.
                                                           Re: Aren't you supposed to be in hiding, Avateur?Ibeechu 9/14/09 4:36 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Aren't you supposed to be in hiding, Avateur?Riceatron 9/14/09 6:15 p.m.
                             Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 9/14/09 3:24 p.m.
                 Re: Post of Incorrect Logical Leapsscarab 9/14/09 3:54 p.m.
           Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsBlueNinja 9/14/09 3:30 p.m.
                 Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsRiceatron 9/14/09 3:56 p.m.
                       Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsNarcogen 9/15/09 7:33 a.m.
                             Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsDHalo 9/15/09 6:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Post of Incorrect Logical LeapsNarcogen 9/17/09 12:14 a.m.
           *Grumbles and goes back under his bridge*Metalingus627 9/14/09 3:53 p.m.
                 Re: *Grumbles and goes back under his bridge*ThorsHammer 9/14/09 4:04 p.m.
                       Re: *Grumbles and goes back under his bridge*Mercury 9/14/09 5:13 p.m.
                       Re: *Grumbles and goes back under his bridge*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/14/09 5:26 p.m.
     Are they done with that one thing in Halo: LegendsGeneral Vagueness 9/14/09 8:54 p.m.



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