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Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cra
Posted By: Peptuck <peptuck3@hotmail.com>Date: 12/31/06 2:04 a.m.

In Response To: Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cra (Mr. Mister)

: It's strange that you understand what a DEM is but are confident that
: Gravemind is one, when he is not. You gave a bit of history on a DEM but
: what it really is is the writer like you said writing himself into a
: corner, saying "fuck it" and coming up with some random shit
: that resolved everything in a both stupid and yet logical way.

: A good example is the movie Donnie Darko, many people think it was all a
: dream, and that everything occurred meant nothing really, that would be a
: DEM, even though DD wasn't a DEM.

: What we learn from Gravemind in Halo 2 is that the Flood does have some sort
: of leadership/central intelligence and that he's not exactly helpless. For
: the more observant it's apparent that Gravemind has managed to witness all
: that has happened at Delta Halo, he captures/saves the MC and Arbiter from
: what we assume he then uses 2401 PT's teleportation ability to send the MC
: and the Arbiter off to stop the index from being used because if that
: happens then everyone is fucked.

In my opinion, Gravemind is no more a Dues Ex Machina than 343 Guilty Spark. GM does the exact same thing that 343 does: he provides a new direction for the plot to roll in. Is his appearance sudden? Yes. Is it to pull the character(s) out of a difficult situation? Yes. Does he turn things in a totally new direction. Yes. Is he necessary to further the plot? Hell yes.

You cannot call GM a DEM if you do not call 343 an equally "contrived" DEM.

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Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleConman17 12/30/06 2:16 a.m.
     GPS.Peptuck 12/30/06 2:33 a.m.
           Re: GPS.Mr. Mister 12/30/06 4:40 a.m.
                 details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Crapmr_mcmurder 12/30/06 3:01 p.m.
                       Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMelkor 12/30/06 3:51 p.m.
                             Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraDarkSim 12/30/06 4:57 p.m.
                             Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/30/06 5:41 p.m.
                                   Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSaint 12/30/06 6:04 p.m.
                                         Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/30/06 7:05 p.m.
                                               Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMelkor 12/30/06 7:15 p.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSlith 12/31/06 12:54 p.m.
                                               Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMr. Mister 12/31/06 1:22 a.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraPeptuck 12/31/06 2:04 a.m.
                                               Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraPeptuck 12/31/06 8:02 a.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/31/06 12:35 p.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSaint 12/31/06 3:50 p.m.
                             Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSlith 12/31/06 12:44 p.m.
                                   Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/31/06 3:18 p.m.
                                   Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMelkor 12/31/06 11:58 p.m.
                       Meh.Peptuck 12/31/06 1:52 a.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCaptain Spark 12/30/06 5:42 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlemr_mcmurder 12/30/06 3:02 p.m.
                 Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCaptain Spark 12/30/06 5:05 p.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleMr. Mister 12/31/06 1:30 a.m.
                 Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCaptain Spark 12/31/06 9:30 a.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleRed_Breast 12/30/06 5:47 a.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleDMDyet 12/30/06 8:35 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCHAOS1212 12/30/06 9:33 a.m.
     Halo would *blow* w/o a good storyline. Nuff sed *NM*RVideo 12/30/06 9:36 a.m.
     If it wasnt for SP, MP wouldnt exist. *NM*Dojorkan 12/30/06 9:53 a.m.
           ooo, but if not for MP, Halo 2 wouldn't exist. *NM*mr_mcmurder 12/30/06 3:17 p.m.
                 Yes it would.Dojorkan 12/30/06 5:23 p.m.
     My thoughts.[AMS] GreyThor 12/30/06 11:37 a.m.
           Re: My thoughts.Sep7imus [subnova] 12/30/06 11:51 a.m.
           I'll be honest.serpx 12/30/06 12:42 p.m.
                 Re: I'll be honest.Reg 12/30/06 2:04 p.m.
                       Re: I'll be honest.kr-1426 12/30/06 6:39 p.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleRockslider 12/30/06 9:13 p.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articleyakaman 12/30/06 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlemr_mcmurder 12/31/06 2:52 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlescarab 12/31/06 3:56 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCody Miller 12/31/06 11:32 a.m.
                 Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlescarab 12/31/06 12:07 p.m.
     Meh.SPARTAN-034 12/30/06 10:00 p.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCody Miller 12/31/06 11:26 a.m.



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