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Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cra
Posted By: MelkorDate: 12/30/06 7:15 p.m.

In Response To: Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cra (mr_mcmurder)

: "Deus ex machina" means "god from a machine." It was a
: term coined by the Greeks when plays were derided for having an
: intractable situation, when suddenly, a contraption built under the stage
: would produce some such god right between the conflicting characters, and
: he would solve it out of the blue. It completely destroys the story
: progression, and the viewer is left wondering what the hell of even
: following the story in the first place was, because it is not obeying any
: rules that were set up previously.

: As I stated, the conflict was that the Master Chief was falling to the bottom
: of a lake, unconscious (or maybe you will argue he was
: "sleeping/waiting" a la Chuck Norris, and we can have a whole
: polemic discussion about that), and that the Arbiter was falling down a
: huge pit-chasm hole thing.

: Gravemind saves them both, and then puts them together and sends them off on
: two quests, all while hitting us over the head with how their characters
: are very different, so perfectly different, in fact, that the viewer is
: sorry he got reminded about that fact.

: A deus ex machina is a sign of poorly put together writing. It shows the
: writer has essentially written himself into a corner, and he has to simply
: break out of the whole action he has set up to get out of it. Gravemind as
: a character may not be stupid. The god Apollo in and of itself is not,
: either. But when Apollo pops up from under the stage, or Gravemind is
: catching bodies falling down bottomless abysses left and right and them
: lecturing them about how they are a yin and yang, just in case the viewer
: doesn't know, you are out of the story, and you suddenly don't care,
: because apparently the writer doesn't, either.

Did you ever, for one second, honestly, think that the Master Chief was actually going to DIE when he fell in the lake? I sure as hell did not. It was more of a way to INTRODUCE Gravemind, rather than Gravemind saving him.


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Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleConman17 12/30/06 2:16 a.m.
     GPS.Peptuck 12/30/06 2:33 a.m.
           Re: GPS.Mr. Mister 12/30/06 4:40 a.m.
                 details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Crapmr_mcmurder 12/30/06 3:01 p.m.
                       Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMelkor 12/30/06 3:51 p.m.
                             Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraDarkSim 12/30/06 4:57 p.m.
                             Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/30/06 5:41 p.m.
                                   Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSaint 12/30/06 6:04 p.m.
                                         Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/30/06 7:05 p.m.
                                               Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMelkor 12/30/06 7:15 p.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSlith 12/31/06 12:54 p.m.
                                               Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMr. Mister 12/31/06 1:22 a.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraPeptuck 12/31/06 2:04 a.m.
                                               Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraPeptuck 12/31/06 8:02 a.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/31/06 12:35 p.m.
                                                     Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSaint 12/31/06 3:50 p.m.
                             Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraSlith 12/31/06 12:44 p.m.
                                   Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=Cramr_mcmurder 12/31/06 3:18 p.m.
                                   Re: details of the story=Cool. Execution in H2=CraMelkor 12/31/06 11:58 p.m.
                       Meh.Peptuck 12/31/06 1:52 a.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCaptain Spark 12/30/06 5:42 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlemr_mcmurder 12/30/06 3:02 p.m.
                 Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCaptain Spark 12/30/06 5:05 p.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleMr. Mister 12/31/06 1:30 a.m.
                 Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCaptain Spark 12/31/06 9:30 a.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleRed_Breast 12/30/06 5:47 a.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleDMDyet 12/30/06 8:35 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCHAOS1212 12/30/06 9:33 a.m.
     Halo would *blow* w/o a good storyline. Nuff sed *NM*RVideo 12/30/06 9:36 a.m.
     If it wasnt for SP, MP wouldnt exist. *NM*Dojorkan 12/30/06 9:53 a.m.
           ooo, but if not for MP, Halo 2 wouldn't exist. *NM*mr_mcmurder 12/30/06 3:17 p.m.
                 Yes it would.Dojorkan 12/30/06 5:23 p.m.
     My thoughts.[AMS] GreyThor 12/30/06 11:37 a.m.
           Re: My thoughts.Sep7imus [subnova] 12/30/06 11:51 a.m.
           I'll be honest.serpx 12/30/06 12:42 p.m.
                 Re: I'll be honest.Reg 12/30/06 2:04 p.m.
                       Re: I'll be honest.kr-1426 12/30/06 6:39 p.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleRockslider 12/30/06 9:13 p.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articleyakaman 12/30/06 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlemr_mcmurder 12/31/06 2:52 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlescarab 12/31/06 3:56 a.m.
           Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCody Miller 12/31/06 11:32 a.m.
                 Re: Who cares about Halo's story? Articlescarab 12/31/06 12:07 p.m.
     Meh.SPARTAN-034 12/30/06 10:00 p.m.
     Re: Who cares about Halo's story? ArticleCody Miller 12/31/06 11:26 a.m.



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