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Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!
Posted By: UrsusArctos <zloty5@netscape.net>Date: 4/18/05 7:37 p.m.

In Response To: Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND! (longWriter)

: therefore it

: I think you're dead right that the forerunners were human. I've read some of
: the suggested reasons why the Covenant hate us so much in this discussion,
: and they all seem to go back to our previous relationship with the
: Prophets or Forerunners, claiming that some grudge existed between us and
: them. My theory for why the prophets are sicking the Covenant forces on
: humanity is this: only a handful of Prophets know that we are the
: Forerunners, and they want to keep it that way. At the beginnings of their
: civilizations, they found Forerunner (ancient human) technology and
: believed that there was something supernatural about them. So the Covenant
: was struck up, and their races began allying with one another to seek the
: "Divine Beyond". But when it was discovered that we were the
: Forerunners, the handful of Prophets that knew it realized that, if word
: gets out that the humans only ever used the rings to fight the Flood---and
: that the "Divine Beyond" doesn't exist---they would quickly lose
: political power. So, they tell everyone to attack the humans and destroy
: their culture. (Remember, in the Jenkins playback in Halo 1, the sargeant
: mentioned that the Covenant were trying to destroy all human history.)
: That way, the various species of the Covenant would hate us instead of
: being curious about us. Also, for anyone who was curious, any evidence
: that we were the Forerunners would be destroyed by Covenant armies.

: There is more support for the theory that humans are Forerunners in what 343
: Guilty Spark says in Halo 1: he refers to human history as "our lost
: time".

: There would be even more support for the theory if, at some point, Prophets
: had other Prophets killed swiftly and without any time for them to speak:
: it makes some sense that one (or more than one) prophet would have the
: moral courage to tell the truth about the humans to the Covenant, and that
: the other prophets would try to stop him.

: There is one problem with the theory, though: if the records of what the
: Forerunners look like are available to everyone on Halo, that would seem
: to disprove or at least weaken the theory's standing: the secret would
: easily get out. Any one of the curious Grunts could start tapping buttons
: and bring up a picture of a Forerunner. And, as I haven't read the books,
: yet, and I can't tell from the other posts on account of ambiguity, I
: don't know whether there are pictures of what forerunners looked like in
: any Covenant records. But if there are, and they don't look like humans,
: this theory looks cold...

: Or does it? If my theory about the Covenant's reasons for attacking humanity
: are correct, then it seems reasonable that the Prophets would try to hack
: the Forerunner computers---every one they find---and erase or edit the
: data regarding the Forerunner race so that the idea that they are human
: won't occur to anyone who sees (or doesn't see) the data. The theory would
: find more support if it turns out that the Prophets have to dedicate or
: "cleanse" every piece of Forerunner technology with a memory
: bank before any other Covenant can see it. The fact that 343 was taken
: directly to the Prophets once the Covenant forces got it is an instance of
: such support. But only time will tell...or, perhaps, the books, if I ever
: find time to read them in my bust college life...if either theory is
: correct.

: ---the peace of Jesus Chirst be with you---

Perhapos humans are disgraced forerunners. Who does gravemind talk to when he says, "I am a monument to your sins?"


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...and this time none of you will be left behindWado SG 4/7/05 6:50 p.m.
     Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Reebo!!!? 4/7/05 7:29 p.m.
           Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Echoes 4/7/05 7:35 p.m.
                 Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Reebo!!!? 4/7/05 7:53 p.m.
                       Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Echoes 4/7/05 7:57 p.m.
                       I hate it when people write in all capitals.Pha7e 4/7/05 8:35 p.m.
                             Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.Reebo!!!? 4/7/05 8:45 p.m.
                                   Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.mrbananas 4/7/05 9:45 p.m.
                                         Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.scorpionxx7 4/15/05 3:34 p.m.
                                               Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.Cambion 4/15/05 3:45 p.m.
                                               Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.mrbananas 4/18/05 6:51 p.m.
                                   I also hate it when people don't capitalize thingsPha7e 4/7/05 10:39 p.m.
                                         Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thReebo!!!? 4/7/05 11:45 p.m.
                                               Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thPha7e 4/7/05 11:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thReebo!!!? 4/8/05 12:13 a.m.
                                                           Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thPha7e 4/8/05 12:47 a.m.
                                                     Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thICDedPpl 4/8/05 11:06 p.m.
                             Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.suave 4/10/05 1:35 p.m.
                                   I hate it when people have elitist attitudesFuzzyWhisper 4/28/05 1:36 a.m.
                 Nephilim had six fingersWado SG 4/8/05 2:32 a.m.
                       Re: Nephilim had six fingersOwm 4/8/05 3:48 a.m.
                       Remember what Bungie asked?Mortalis Deus 4/8/05 4:15 a.m.
                             Re: Remember what Bungie asked?Zak Anderson 4/8/05 4:49 a.m.
                                   Invalidating my theory...Wado SG 4/9/05 4:12 a.m.
                                         Re: Invalidating my theory...longWriter 4/18/05 6:11 p.m.
                                               Re: Invalidating my theory...suave 4/18/05 6:22 p.m.
                                               Re: Invalidating my theory...Wado SG 4/18/05 6:26 p.m.
                                               Re: Invalidating my theory...Zak Anderson 4/19/05 3:21 a.m.
                                                     ...Louis Wu 4/19/05 8:51 a.m.
                                                           this post is right onMiguel Chavez 4/19/05 9:36 a.m.
                                                                 I think...Louis Wu 4/19/05 9:55 a.m.
                                                                       Re: I think...Wado SG 4/19/05 12:06 p.m.
                                                                             Territories, of course. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/19/05 12:31 p.m.
                                                                 POST OF THE DAY! *NM*XLNC 4/19/05 2:06 p.m.
                                                     Re: Invalidating my theory...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/19/05 11:47 a.m.
                       Re: Nephilim had six fingersSilky Red 4/9/05 11:23 p.m.
           Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!longWriter 4/18/05 6:41 p.m.
                 Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!UrsusArctos 4/18/05 7:37 p.m.
     Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiICDedPpl 4/8/05 1:05 p.m.
           Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiEkim 4/8/05 7:39 p.m.
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     Re: Future, maybe humans lose?Dominic Moberly 4/10/05 2:05 p.m.
           Re: Future, maybe humans lose?Guilty Spark 4/10/05 2:09 p.m.
                 putting my two cents inDirge 4/12/05 6:37 p.m.
                       Comments upon blood colourEarthScorpion 4/15/05 12:40 p.m.
                             Re: Comments upon blood colourscorpionxx7 4/15/05 3:24 p.m.
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     The Great Journey117 Reclaiming Factor 4/16/05 1:31 a.m.
           Re: The Great Journeytrojanman42 4/16/05 1:45 a.m.
           Re: The Great JourneyPeptuck 4/16/05 7:51 a.m.
     Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiphoenix927 4/16/05 12:14 p.m.
     Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiajenteks 4/20/05 5:58 p.m.
           Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiShadowsniper689 4/20/05 6:21 p.m.
     My old post about "100,000 years war"replay 4/27/05 3:23 a.m.
           Re: My old post about "100,000 years war"Jamirus99 4/27/05 5:13 a.m.
                 Re: My old post about "100,000 years war"mrbananas 4/27/05 7:31 a.m.
     On to somethingFlawed Legacy 4/28/05 9:30 p.m.
           Am *I* On to something?!Likada 'Banshee 4/29/05 2:16 p.m.
                 Re: Am *I* On to something?!AlfaSub 4/29/05 11:33 p.m.



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