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Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behi
Posted By: phoenix927 <u0nlyl1v30nc3@aol.com>Date: 4/16/05 12:14 p.m.

In Response To: ...and this time none of you will be left behind (Wado SG)

: In reference to last part of Michael's news item on the HSP (
: http://halosm.bungie.org/story/newssearch.html?newsitem=790 )...

: ...Here's where it gets crazy. What if "to finish what we started"
: is a reference to the first activation of the Halos over 100,000 years
: ago? Could a Prophet/Human (civil?) war have led to this? Remember that
: the 343 Guilty Spark was glad to see that some of us "survived to
: reproduce" in the Library...what if the Prophets messed up last time
: and some humans escaped the activation (by using the Ark?), but "THIS
: time" none of us will make it. A 100,000 year-old grudge would
: certainly explain why the Prophets hate us so much.

: So, Covenant religion just a cover for the Prophets to hunt down the remnants
: of humanity that survived the rings' activation? How do the Flood fit into
: this? Speculate/shoot down away.

: The sub-title "100 000 Year's War" does appear in one of the levels
: in Halo 2. The last time Halo's weapons were activated was just over
: 100,000 local (to Halo) years ago. This does seem too strong a coincidence
: to just ignore they may be related.

: I believe that Michael is correct in saying that the Prophets have a
: "grudge" against humanity. However, I don't think he quite put
: the motives together or the sequence of events.

: The Prophets did not activate (at least knowingly) the last firing of Halo. I
: am confident of this because Prophets are not reclaimers, nor are any of
: the other Covenant species. Only humans appear as reclaimers. Only humans
: can activate Halo.

: Another point is that 100,000 year war implies that the war has been going on
: for a long time, but more literally that the war started 100,000 years
: ago. I believe this to strongly imply that the war started with the last
: firing of Halo.

: Based on this, I conclude that humans activated Halo around 100,000 local
: years ago, took the ark with whatever else was to be saved and left
: everything else behind , including the Prophets. This started the 100,000
: year war and is the motive behind the contempt for humans demonstrated by
: the Prophets.

: As a personal note, I do not believe that humans are the Forerunners, the
: Forerunners are gone or sleeping. However, humans may have been created or
: heavily influenced by the Forerunners. I say this because of Biblical
: references of spirits that existed before man, however, Adam (man) was
: created in the image of God. Satan was jealous of man, Satan refused to
: bow down to Adam as his superior.

: Perhaps some similar story elements fall into the Halo Bible (why call it a
: Bible, by the way, unless you want to relate it to the Bible). The
: Prophets and other races could have existed, but somehow humans were
: created or rose to become the favorites to the Forerunner. The Prophets
: could have refused to bow down to the humans as their superiors (just like
: Satan and his followers did in the Bible). Then when the Flood outbreak
: came to "cleanse the galaxy", the humans were chosen to ride on
: the Ark. Humans were the only ones worthy enough in the eyes of the
: Forerunner to do so. The rest of the galaxy was left to rot, but somehow
: pockets of Prophets and other races survived, maybe blasted back
: effectively to the Stone Age, but survive they did, and remember they did.
: They somehow recorded what happened and remembered that they were left
: behind.

: The Prophets only want what they feel is rightfully theirs.

What he is referring to is most likely either: (A) the incident on reach when the covenant destroyed the spartan testing facility, or (B) they are just coming after humanity and master chief.


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...and this time none of you will be left behindWado SG 4/7/05 6:50 p.m.
     Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Reebo!!!? 4/7/05 7:29 p.m.
           Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Echoes 4/7/05 7:35 p.m.
                 Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Reebo!!!? 4/7/05 7:53 p.m.
                       Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!Echoes 4/7/05 7:57 p.m.
                       I hate it when people write in all capitals.Pha7e 4/7/05 8:35 p.m.
                             Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.Reebo!!!? 4/7/05 8:45 p.m.
                                   Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.mrbananas 4/7/05 9:45 p.m.
                                         Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.scorpionxx7 4/15/05 3:34 p.m.
                                               Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.Cambion 4/15/05 3:45 p.m.
                                               Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.mrbananas 4/18/05 6:51 p.m.
                                   I also hate it when people don't capitalize thingsPha7e 4/7/05 10:39 p.m.
                                         Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thReebo!!!? 4/7/05 11:45 p.m.
                                               Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thPha7e 4/7/05 11:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thReebo!!!? 4/8/05 12:13 a.m.
                                                           Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thPha7e 4/8/05 12:47 a.m.
                                                     Re: I also hate it when people don't capitalize thICDedPpl 4/8/05 11:06 p.m.
                             Re: I hate it when people write in all capitals.suave 4/10/05 1:35 p.m.
                                   I hate it when people have elitist attitudesFuzzyWhisper 4/28/05 1:36 a.m.
                 Nephilim had six fingersWado SG 4/8/05 2:32 a.m.
                       Re: Nephilim had six fingersOwm 4/8/05 3:48 a.m.
                       Remember what Bungie asked?Mortalis Deus 4/8/05 4:15 a.m.
                             Re: Remember what Bungie asked?Zak Anderson 4/8/05 4:49 a.m.
                                   Invalidating my theory...Wado SG 4/9/05 4:12 a.m.
                                         Re: Invalidating my theory...longWriter 4/18/05 6:11 p.m.
                                               Re: Invalidating my theory...suave 4/18/05 6:22 p.m.
                                               Re: Invalidating my theory...Wado SG 4/18/05 6:26 p.m.
                                               Re: Invalidating my theory...Zak Anderson 4/19/05 3:21 a.m.
                                                     ...Louis Wu 4/19/05 8:51 a.m.
                                                           this post is right onMiguel Chavez 4/19/05 9:36 a.m.
                                                                 I think...Louis Wu 4/19/05 9:55 a.m.
                                                                       Re: I think...Wado SG 4/19/05 12:06 p.m.
                                                                             Territories, of course. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/19/05 12:31 p.m.
                                                                 POST OF THE DAY! *NM*XLNC 4/19/05 2:06 p.m.
                                                     Re: Invalidating my theory...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/19/05 11:47 a.m.
                       Re: Nephilim had six fingersSilky Red 4/9/05 11:23 p.m.
           Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!longWriter 4/18/05 6:41 p.m.
                 Re: THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!UrsusArctos 4/18/05 7:37 p.m.
     Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiICDedPpl 4/8/05 1:05 p.m.
           Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiEkim 4/8/05 7:39 p.m.
                 Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiAdam Downes 4/12/05 6:08 a.m.
     Re: Future, maybe humans lose?Dominic Moberly 4/10/05 2:05 p.m.
           Re: Future, maybe humans lose?Guilty Spark 4/10/05 2:09 p.m.
                 putting my two cents inDirge 4/12/05 6:37 p.m.
                       Comments upon blood colourEarthScorpion 4/15/05 12:40 p.m.
                             Re: Comments upon blood colourscorpionxx7 4/15/05 3:24 p.m.
                             *Camels and lamas comes to mind. *NM*Dundre 4/16/05 8:12 a.m.
     The Great Journey117 Reclaiming Factor 4/16/05 1:31 a.m.
           Re: The Great Journeytrojanman42 4/16/05 1:45 a.m.
           Re: The Great JourneyPeptuck 4/16/05 7:51 a.m.
     Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiphoenix927 4/16/05 12:14 p.m.
     Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiajenteks 4/20/05 5:58 p.m.
           Re: ...and this time none of you will be left behiShadowsniper689 4/20/05 6:21 p.m.
     My old post about "100,000 years war"replay 4/27/05 3:23 a.m.
           Re: My old post about "100,000 years war"Jamirus99 4/27/05 5:13 a.m.
                 Re: My old post about "100,000 years war"mrbananas 4/27/05 7:31 a.m.
     On to somethingFlawed Legacy 4/28/05 9:30 p.m.
           Am *I* On to something?!Likada 'Banshee 4/29/05 2:16 p.m.
                 Re: Am *I* On to something?!AlfaSub 4/29/05 11:33 p.m.



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