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Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next proj
Posted By: ferrexDate: 12/9/01 2:36 p.m.

In Response To: Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next proj (Lucid)

: A. They only stand to make more on XBox than PC because THEY WORK FOR THE
: COMPANY THAT MAKES THE XBOX. It means nothing regarding whether they
: should continue to make PC and Mac games. Just because they make more
: money in one area doesn't mean they have to work there exclusively.

This isn't the case at all. From a purely financial standpoint, consoles have a much larger market than PC and Mac games, and even if Bungie was still an independent making Halo for the XBox, they would make more from that than they would from the PC version.

But it's not that open and shut. Developing for a console is just cool, because you get to spend more time working on the game instead of supporting the zillions of hardware and software configurations on the market. This is the problem lots of developers are having with the PC market... which is the last game you can remember which was so stable and playable at version 1.0 that nobody ever saw any need to patch it?

HardCore is right about this one. The PC industry is getting worse, not better. There are no trends that I can think of that suggest it will be easier or more profitable for developers to develop for the PC than a console like the XBox.

: B. Sounds absolute. I know nothing about developing games, but I do know that
: it is unlikely that either is clearly the easiest. Both likely have
: positive and negative points.

Of course they both have positives and negatives, but if the positives of developing for a console outweigh the negatives and outweigh the positives of developing for a PC, then it's still easier.

And just from my standpoint on the sidelines of the actual engine development process, I would have to say that developing for the XBox is as easy as developing for a PC with a certain hardware configuration, but you don't have to worry about all of the other configurations. Which suggests that XBox development is on par with PC development at it's absolute best. So I think HardCore is right again here.

: C. Bungie can develop for PC/Mac if they choose. Why not?

Nobody said that they couldn't.

: D. PC games are just as "visable" as console games, just visible to
: different people. If you are a console gamer then perhaps you don't hear
: much about the PC games. Good PC games can and do get a lot of
: "thunder".

If you look at the sales figures, PC games generally rake in an order of magnitude fewer sales. Certainly, good PC games do get exposure, but compared to console titles and their much larger audience, it's not nearly as much.

: E. Bungie saw their ideas come to life on PC and Mac, too. See B again. PC
: and Mac have plenty to offer. Releasing games on XBox and releasing games
: on PC/Mac are not mutually exclusive options.

Meh, HardCore was being a bit melodramatic about "ideas coming to life" only on the XBox. But he's right about the development advantages, as I pointed out earlier.

And actually, developing games on the XBox and releasing games on the PC/Mac ARE mutually exclusive activities. Bungie does not have unlimited talent resources, and development on either platform is sufficiently different that we probably wouldn't want to do both simultaneously. So you do one, and then you do the other.

Cheers,
rex


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Halo 2, Im not giving up....Halifax 12/8/01 10:04 a.m.
     Re: Halo 2, Im not giving up....Louis Wu 12/8/01 10:14 a.m.
           Re: Halo 2, Im not giving up....Hethal 12/8/01 11:20 a.m.
                 were all pissed one time in life, its your turn?:) *NM*Aginor 12/8/01 11:49 a.m.
                       Re: were all pissed one time in life, its your turhalifax 12/8/01 12:23 p.m.
                             why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projectBiBoFieTo 12/8/01 12:50 p.m.
                                   Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projLouis Wu 12/8/01 12:56 p.m.
                                         Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projHardCore 12/8/01 2:00 p.m.
                                               Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projLucid 12/8/01 2:14 p.m.
                                                     Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projferrex 12/8/01 3:13 p.m.
                                                           What will Bungie do?Jester 12/8/01 3:34 p.m.
                                                           Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projLucid 12/9/01 3:22 a.m.
                                                                 Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projno7orious the vindictive 12/9/01 4:24 a.m.
                                                                       Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projLucid 12/9/01 1:24 p.m.
                                                                             Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projno7orious the stingy 12/9/01 5:14 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projLucid 12/9/01 11:08 p.m.
                                                                 Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projferrex 12/9/01 2:36 p.m.
                                         They have to be working on it.jeremedia 12/8/01 2:12 p.m.
                                               ][?Lucid 12/8/01 2:23 p.m.
                                               Re: They have to be working on it.Cunbelin The Spoiler 12/8/01 7:02 p.m.
                                         Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projRAZORBACK 12/8/01 3:21 p.m.
                                               Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projvector40 12/8/01 3:40 p.m.
                                         Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projCunbelin The Spoiler 12/8/01 6:39 p.m.
                                         Re: why WOULDN'T Halo 2 xbox be bungie's next projNym Nadal 12/8/01 7:50 p.m.
                                   Is it just me...Lucid 12/8/01 1:47 p.m.
                                         Re: if Halo didn't make bungie...BiBoFieTo 12/8/01 2:49 p.m.
                                               Re: if Halo didn't make bungie...Santiago 12/9/01 12:39 a.m.
                                                     ^ Good post! *NM* *NM*Stoner Marathon Fan 12/9/01 6:34 a.m.
                       Re: My impression of AginorThePerfectCore 12/8/01 2:48 p.m.
                             Re: My impression of AginorBiBoFieTo 12/8/01 3:12 p.m.
                                   Re: My impression of AginorThePerfectCore 12/8/01 5:30 p.m.
                                         Re: My impression of Aginorvector40 12/8/01 5:47 p.m.
                                               LOL ... Another impatient consumerJester 12/8/01 7:41 p.m.
                             HOW LONG DID YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE?!?!Jester 12/8/01 3:16 p.m.
                                   Re: HOW LONG DID YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE?!?!RAZORBACK 12/8/01 3:27 p.m.
                                         I remember OniJester 12/8/01 3:42 p.m.
                                         Re: HOW LONG DID YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE?!?!vector40 12/8/01 3:42 p.m.
                             Re: My impression of Aginorvector40 12/8/01 3:43 p.m.
                             cool, thanks! :) *NM*Aginor 12/8/01 6:33 p.m.



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