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Re: Double standard *sort of long*
Posted By: tadbozDate: 12/9/12 1:22 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Double standard *sort of long* (SonofMacPhisto)


: Don't think it's everywhere or nowhere? Avoid the two extremes? That's not
: very insightful.

: I'll agree about the Peach and the frying pan - sounds pretty trivial (though
: I think a frying pan is a melee weapon in L4D2, and three of the
: characters are male, so hey). Now tell me what you think about the lack of
: marketing for FemShep up until recently, including how her appearance was
: picked for Mass Effect 3. Next we can talk about Cortana's experience in
: Halo 3, and how uncomfortable that is for some people - especially in
: regards to sexual assault.

: See, this way, we'll really see what you think.

Well, geez, sorry for picking such an unsubstantial example. Maybe next time I'll think about one with more serious ramifications for you.

You're right, there are plenty of progressive games out there now. I haven't played Left for Dead. I have played both Portals and I thought there was nothing objectionable about how Chel was treated as a character. I always play as FemShep and think they might have been better off with only a female protagonist, even though it would've shot the player customization aspect. BroShep is a tool. I can't stand him. I find FemShep to be more of a badass, not because she's a beautiful woman with guns, but because she feels way more authentic. Better facial expressions, better voice acting (Jennifer HALE! What-what!), better presence in the room. Having Cortana be a naked blue lady is just laying her open to danger and plays perfectly into the male "damsel in distress" fantasy. I don't see the appeal and I can see how plenty of folks would find that creepy/icky/what have you.

Look, I'm offended by inequality wherever I see it. I happen to be in situations often where I get mistreated or people I care about get mistreated because we're of a rather small demographic. I get shit for not being Christian. My parents get shit for being lesbians. My deadbeat geriatric neighbors filed a bogus complaint with my mom's work to try to get her fired, because they're homophobic fucks and just decided one day that they'd prefer us destitute so they wouldn't have to stand living nextdoor to us anymore.

I was raised to treat everybody the same. No hyper-feminist, men-are-douches attitude. Just. The damn. Same. I have not yet begun to fight and I'd rather not start, not here, because I have enough shit IRL to deal with that I'll start getting ulcers if I commit myself to online squabbles. This level of ire is the one I was trying to hold back when I wrote my previous post. Now that you've seen it, are you satisfied that I'm for the cause of justice?

I hate when this happens, now I sound all self-righteous and shit. Where the fuck is my vodka.....

P.S. A big shoutout to Leisandir for backing me up. You rock, my friend.


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McFarlane "The Package" Set, Coming Januarttadboz 11/28/12 11:17 p.m.
     Why does Kelly have heels on? *NM*rhubarb 11/28/12 11:43 p.m.
           Two possibilities:uberfoop 11/28/12 11:51 p.m.
           Hey, if it worked for Raiden... *NM*Dagoonite 11/29/12 1:27 a.m.
           Wow. That is bullshit.bryan newman 11/29/12 2:42 a.m.
                 Re: Wow. That is bullshit.Hedgemony 11/29/12 3:12 a.m.
                       Re: Wow. That is bullshit.bryan newman 11/29/12 3:36 a.m.
                       Same hereBry 11/29/12 2:21 p.m.
                             Re:OOOOoo Shiny!Revenant1988 11/29/12 2:58 p.m.
                                   Re:OOOOoo Shiny!Bry 11/29/12 3:22 p.m.
                 Re: Wow. That is bullshit.ArchedThunder 11/29/12 4:09 a.m.
                 Re: Wow. That is bullshit.Archilen 11/29/12 4:31 a.m.
                       Re: Wow. That is bullshit.ArchedThunder 11/29/12 5:07 a.m.
                             Re: Wow. That is bullshit.Archilen 11/29/12 5:19 a.m.
                                   Re: Wow. That is bullshit.ArchedThunder 11/29/12 7:32 a.m.
                                         Re: Wow. That is bullshit.Archilen 11/29/12 7:58 a.m.
                                   I liked it *NM*Xmoosev3 11/29/12 8:06 a.m.
                             Re: Wow. That is bullshit.Vincent 11/29/12 5:39 a.m.
                 Devil's advocateApollo 11/29/12 6:16 a.m.
                       Re: Devil's advocateBry 11/29/12 6:30 a.m.
                       Re: Devil's advocateQuirel 11/29/12 11:00 a.m.
                 Re: Wow. That is bullshit.Miguel Chavez 11/29/12 6:20 a.m.
                 Re: Wow. That is bullshit.Captain Spark 11/29/12 10:08 a.m.
                       Re: Wow. That is bullshit.bluerunner 11/29/12 10:38 a.m.
                 Maybe it's suppoesed to help with speed?SIX min WHISTLE 11/29/12 1:16 p.m.
           Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?pete_the_duck 11/29/12 8:03 a.m.
                 LOL! *NM*Kermit 11/29/12 8:12 a.m.
           Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?dCon V 11/29/12 8:10 a.m.
                 Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?NotTheVacuum 11/29/12 8:32 a.m.
                 Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?uberfoop 11/29/12 12:29 p.m.
                       I can run just fine in my cowboy boots *NM*Schedonnardus 11/29/12 1:34 p.m.
           Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?Subtank 11/29/12 10:51 a.m.
                 Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?Grizzlei 11/29/12 1:05 p.m.
                       Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?bluerunner 11/29/12 1:21 p.m.
                             Re: Why does Kelly have heels on?padraig08 11/29/12 2:04 p.m.
                       I am so glad they toned that down.scarab 11/29/12 5:38 p.m.
                             Re: I am so glad they toned that down.Grizzlei 11/29/12 5:43 p.m.
                                   Well played *NM*thebruce0 11/30/12 6:12 p.m.
           I'd rock 'em.Tex 11/29/12 11:49 a.m.
     The. Hell?Quirel 11/29/12 1:43 a.m.
           Re: The. Hell?Ibeechu 11/29/12 6:35 a.m.
     No one show Goosechecka... *NM*GrimBrother One 11/29/12 7:28 a.m.
           Re: No one show Goosechecka...Goosechecka 11/29/12 9:26 a.m.
                 Re: No one show Goosechecka...Louis Wu 11/29/12 10:19 a.m.
                       Japan.munky-058 11/29/12 1:22 p.m.
                             I wish you were wrong...Mid7night 11/29/12 2:46 p.m.
                             Re: Japan.Louis Wu 11/29/12 3:47 p.m.
                                   Re: Japan.Flynn J Taggart 11/29/12 7:57 p.m.
                             Re: Japan.Bryan Newman 11/29/12 6:30 p.m.
                       Unfortunately...Mid7night 11/29/12 2:59 p.m.
     Re: McFarlane "The Package" Set, Coming JanuartThe Lionheart 11/29/12 8:38 a.m.
     Double standardSonGoharotto 11/29/12 11:15 a.m.
           Re: Double standardQuirel 11/29/12 11:28 a.m.
           Re: Double standardCody Miller 11/29/12 11:57 a.m.
                 Re: Double standardCody Miller 12/5/12 4:40 p.m.
                       Re: Double standardLeisandir 12/5/12 5:28 p.m.
                             Re: Double standardCody Miller 12/5/12 5:34 p.m.
                                   Re: Double standardSonGoharotto 12/5/12 5:48 p.m.
                                   Re: Double standardLeisandir 12/5/12 5:51 p.m.
                                         Re: Double standardCody Miller 12/5/12 7:07 p.m.
                                               Re: Double standarduberfoop 12/5/12 7:17 p.m.
                                                     With this guy? Always.Leisandir 12/5/12 9:17 p.m.
                                                           Re: With this guy? Always.uberfoop 12/5/12 9:34 p.m.
                                                                 Re: With this guy? Always.Leisandir 12/5/12 9:54 p.m.
                                                                       Re: With this guy? Always.uberfoop 12/5/12 10:25 p.m.
                                                                             Re: With this guy? Always.Leisandir 12/5/12 10:48 p.m.
                                                                 Re: With this guy? Always.Cody Miller 12/6/12 12:43 a.m.
                                                                       Re: With this guy? Always.tadboz 12/6/12 2:07 a.m.
                                                                             Re: With this guy? Always.Cody Miller 12/6/12 1:22 p.m.
                                                                       Re: With this guy? Always.Ibeechu 12/6/12 10:36 a.m.
                                                                             Re: With this guy? Always.SonofMacPhisto 12/6/12 10:48 a.m.
                                                                             Re: With this guy? Always.Leisandir 12/6/12 10:52 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: With this guy? Always.Ibeechu 12/6/12 11:11 a.m.
                                                                             Re: With this guy? Always.Cody Miller 12/6/12 1:17 p.m.
                       That was AWESOME. Thanks for sharing! *NM*GrimBrother One 12/5/12 7:07 p.m.
                       Re: Double standard *sort of long*tadboz 12/5/12 11:15 p.m.
                             Well said. *NM*Leisandir 12/6/12 9:10 a.m.
                             Re: Double standard *sort of long*SonofMacPhisto 12/6/12 8:45 p.m.
                                   Re: Double standard *sort of long*Leisandir 12/6/12 10:06 p.m.
                                         *Above*gamerguy2002 12/8/12 8:48 a.m.
                                   Re: Double standard *sort of long*tadboz 12/9/12 1:22 a.m.
           That needs to be there.rhubarb 11/29/12 12:42 p.m.
     Looks sexy...Grizzlei 11/29/12 1:02 p.m.



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