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Re: Is that Gamesager?
Posted By: uberfoop <atkinso2@seattleu.edu>	Date: 11/6/11 12:26 p.m.
In Response To: Is that Gamesager? (Gravemind) : And if it really : does have regenerating hit points like you claim, that's even worse. Yes, it does. All vehicles in Reach do, and I'm not sure why most people haven't realised this; haven't they been in situations where their flaming vehicle survived for ages as long as they weren't shot up very much at once, or where they shot at a flaming vehicle repeatedly over a long period without it dying? Vehicle health in Reach works exactly like player health. If you get it beneath certain points (which are the major steps of damage that get represented, like clean->smoking and smoking->flaming), it won't regenerate past those points, but otherwise it regenerates just fine. At some level, I think the issue with arguing that the banshee is "overpowered" is that, if you join together and shoot it down before a game snowballs, it's sometimes such a glass cannon that it just gets wrecked immediately and has no effect on anything. The problem arises in the fact that, if the game does snowball, then the banshee becomes absolutely ridiculous. It's a strong snowballing mechanism that makes DotA: Allstars look reasonable. And that's really the problem with it. It's not always absurdly overpowered, but if the game goes strongly in the direction of a team with a banshee for a moment, reversing that swing becomes just absurdly impossible. It makes sense that a game would snowball here and there a little, but in this case you're wresting control so badly away from the losers that they're pretty much not able to play the game at all. This is related to one of the reasons I like the Halo 1 model of balancing the general-purpose spawn weapon comparably to the power weapons, and just making the power weapons more specialized rather than strictly "better;" people can be disadvantaged, but they often still have something that at least resembles an ability to play the game competitively. And it certainly doesn't help that Reach's BTB spawn areas are often surround by nooks, crannies, and hills that look as though they were specifically designed to screw over anyone whose team gets surrounded (or generally serve as a means of making the sniper rifle even more stupidly overpowered than it is anyway in BTB). Suffice it to say, though, that until things become more reasonable, I'm going to keep interpreting "the enemy is being slaughtered horribly" as "time to grab a mongoose." Keeps things competitive and interesting.

Message Index

TGS Network Spotlight!	Nak3d Eli	11/4/11 8:29 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	RC Master	11/4/11 10:21 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	Phoenix_9286	11/5/11 12:14 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	HC Sangheili	11/7/11 9:54 a.m.
Teen Girl Squad? *NM*	kanbo	11/4/11 11:22 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	Vandle Valsher	11/5/11 2:50 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	Phoenix_9286	11/5/11 3:19 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	AarrowOM	11/5/11 5:47 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	Nak3d Eli	11/5/11 8:11 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	BanditORR	11/5/11 8:52 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	RC Master	11/5/11 11:51 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	Phoenix_9286	11/5/11 11:56 p.m.
Re: TGS Network Spotlight!	AarrowOM	11/6/11 3:01 a.m.
Insert negative post here.	Vandle Valsher	11/6/11 1:07 p.m.
Condescend much?	Revenant1988	11/7/11 2:11 p.m.
+1 *NM*	UnrealCh13f	11/7/11 2:58 p.m.
Over the line.	Louis Wu	11/7/11 3:00 p.m.
Re: Over the line.	Revenant1988	11/7/11 6:42 p.m.
Is that Gamesager?	Gravemind	11/6/11 4:40 a.m.
Re: Is that Gamesager?	uberfoop	11/6/11 12:26 p.m.
Re: Is that Gamesager?	Gravemind	11/6/11 4:28 p.m.
Re: Is that Gamesager?	Apirishin	11/6/11 10:04 p.m.
Look forward to seeing more from you. *NM*	Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)	11/8/11 11:39 a.m.
Well said. *NM*	bluerunner	11/8/11 1:02 p.m.
Re: Is that Gamesager?	SEspider	11/8/11 10:36 p.m.
Holy Crap.	UnrealCh13f	11/7/11 11:55 a.m.
+1 *NM*	Phoenix_9286	11/7/11 12:33 p.m.
Re: +2 *NM*	UNSC Trafalgar	11/7/11 12:35 p.m.
+3 *NM*	SonofMacPhisto	11/7/11 12:39 p.m.
+4 *NM*	Beckx	11/7/11 12:47 p.m.
+5	AladelAngel	11/7/11 12:51 p.m.
Re: Holy Crap.	DMFanella	11/7/11 1:00 p.m.
About Naked Eli v2...	hezekiah	11/7/11 2:20 p.m.
Re: Holy Crap.	SonGoharotto	11/7/11 3:06 p.m.
Thank you.	iMonkey777	11/7/11 4:44 p.m.
The only way to prevent stuff like this...	Gravemind	11/7/11 8:59 p.m.
Why is everyone killing this guy???	cardo 8 atl	11/8/11 4:21 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	Beckx	11/8/11 8:14 a.m.
Nak3d Eli Manning? *NM*	Ibeechu	11/8/11 8:29 a.m.
I'm going to gouge my eyes w/ an ice cream scoop *NM*	Beckx	11/8/11 9:05 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	Revenant1988	11/8/11 9:31 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	DMFanella	11/8/11 11:17 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	Revenant1988	11/8/11 11:26 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	Apirishin	11/8/11 11:41 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	Nak3d Eli	11/11/11 4:55 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	munky-058	11/11/11 5:08 p.m.
Unfair.	Beckx	11/12/11 5:06 p.m.
Re: Unfair.	General Vagueness	11/12/11 11:51 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	Hawaiian Pig	11/12/11 11:10 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	SonofMacPhisto	11/11/11 6:34 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	RC Master	11/12/11 10:08 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	SonofMacPhisto	11/12/11 10:28 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone killing this guy???	Kermit	11/12/11 1:05 p.m.
Re: The only way to prevent stuff like this...	AarrowOM	11/8/11 2:33 p.m.