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Re: We need to talk, Frank.
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>	Date: 6/7/11 3:12 a.m.
In Response To: We need to talk, Frank. (Gravemind) : First off, I heard you on Spike TV yesterday afternoon talking about why you : decided on having a "Classic Map Pack" instead of actual H1 MP. : You talked about splitting the player base, which is what a lot of other : people here said as well as to why we wouldn't get H1 MP at this point in : time. I always found myself flabbergasted as to why splitting the player : base was such a big deal. So the playlists in Reach would get streamlined : to account for fewer players? Well, I say whoopie-freakin-doo. Player : bases get split all the time every time some new game comes out. People : left H3 for COD4, and Reach for Black Ops, and more will leave for Gears : 3, MW3, and eventually Halo 4. So what if H1 siphons off a couple thousand : people from Reach? But you guys thought it was a big deal (your reasoning : also means the earliest we can expect to see H1 MP on XBL is two years : after Halo 6 is released). So explain to me: Why is splitting the player : base such a big deal, and why should it be a disqualifying factor for not : having H1's MP for H1AE? What flabbergasts me is how the logic of this decision can be staring everybody in the face, and yet everyone's emotional desire for an H1 remake the way they want it forces them to ignore it. Couple thousand players? In what universe would it be worth supporting separate multi for such a small audience? If the audience is too small, it's not worth doing. If it is too large, it impacts Reach's playlists by making matches harder to make, increasing wait times or decreasing playlist variety (possibly both). Understanding how and why Bungie made playlists makes this impossible to ignore. Everything else is just "but, but.. I want H1 multi". : H1's MP work over XBL, and why. And nothing about game balance. Who cares : if the pistol is overpowered Probably as many as really care about H1 multi. We're talking about the edges of the base, here. (solution: don't make it a starting weapon) : or that the Needler sucked in MP. My friends and I had a damn good time : the way it was and wouldn't have it any other way. I want your reasons to : be solely technical in nature. Damn it, I had an overwhelmingly personal and emotional experience playing a videogame ten years ago, now please give me your clinical and technically astute reasons why I can't have it again exactly the same as I remember! Technical considerations are NOT more important than commercial ones.

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Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	GrimBrother One	6/6/11 9:12 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	TDSpiral	6/6/11 9:13 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	katancik	6/7/11 12:54 a.m.
I guess I'm a just very visual person...	Leviathan	6/6/11 9:21 p.m.
Better than the one in the HA trailer...	ZackDark	6/6/11 9:24 p.m.
Doesn't make it any better.	Quirel	6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
Re: Doesn't make it any better.	General Battuta	6/6/11 11:08 p.m.
Re: Doesn't make it any better.	Quirel	6/7/11 12:11 a.m.
This^ made me chuckle. *NM*	Vandle Valsher	6/7/11 7:02 a.m.
Good	Quirel	6/7/11 10:14 a.m.
Yeah, MC looked fugly	Gilver	6/6/11 9:33 p.m.
Re: Yeah, MC looked fugly	Lurono	6/6/11 10:11 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ZackDark	6/6/11 9:22 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	DEEP NNN	6/6/11 9:48 p.m.
Time to dust off the Mister Chief!	Schedonnardus	6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	snakegriffin	6/6/11 9:30 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	SPARTAN-034	6/6/11 9:39 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ZackDark	6/6/11 9:45 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Sep7imus [subnova]	6/6/11 10:52 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	SPU7N1K	6/6/11 9:32 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	frankie	6/6/11 9:42 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Leviathan	6/6/11 9:44 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Quirel	6/6/11 9:54 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-	INSANEdrive	6/6/11 10:00 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-	Buttskunk	6/6/11 10:06 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	TDSpiral	6/6/11 10:08 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Pkmnrulz240	6/6/11 10:20 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	SPU7N1K	6/6/11 11:15 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	goCHIEFgo	6/7/11 8:50 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Pkmnrulz240	6/6/11 10:09 p.m.
Halo PC map included?	DarkS7G	6/6/11 10:38 p.m.
Re: Halo PC map included?	Hunt3r	6/6/11 10:45 p.m.
My guess... Death Island! *NM*	The BS Police	6/6/11 10:49 p.m.
Re: Halo PC map included?	elessar787	6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
Re: Halo PC map included?	DogCow	6/8/11 4:50 p.m.
this brought me back, baby.	Hunt3r	6/6/11 10:44 p.m.
Re: this brought me back, baby.	MaCeGaC	6/6/11 10:51 p.m.
Re: this brought me back, baby.	DHalo	6/6/11 11:04 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Frankie	6/6/11 11:36 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	NOKYARD	6/6/11 11:59 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 12:41 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	shadow8p	6/7/11 2:44 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 12:12 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 12:52 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 1:00 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Lurono	6/7/11 3:34 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/9/11 1:05 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Lurono	6/9/11 2:00 a.m.
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Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/9/11 7:21 p.m.
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Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/10/11 7:40 p.m.
We need to talk, Frank.	Gravemind	6/7/11 2:52 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Narcogen	6/7/11 3:12 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Gravemind	6/7/11 3:40 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Narcogen	6/7/11 4:24 a.m.
Pssst...	Wayward Spleen™	6/7/11 7:03 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Miguel Chavez	6/7/11 9:37 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Wayward Spleen™	6/7/11 10:27 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Gravemind	6/7/11 11:51 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Wayward Spleen™	6/7/11 12:34 p.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	mnemesis	6/7/11 12:53 p.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Dagoonite	6/7/11 9:09 p.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Narcogen	6/8/11 1:45 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Btcc22	6/7/11 11:24 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Dundre	6/8/11 2:12 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	DogCow	6/8/11 4:18 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 12:49 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 1:09 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 2:20 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 2:33 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 3:22 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 4:33 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 7:06 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/9/11 11:27 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Wayward Spleen™	6/9/11 11:58 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Dagoonite	6/7/11 1:56 a.m.
Re: FIREFIGHT mention	ChrisTheeCrappy	6/6/11 11:28 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/6/11 11:50 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 12:57 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 1:02 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 2:23 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/9/11 11:13 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 1:03 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 2:31 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 3:25 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	The Loot	6/7/11 3:37 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 4:32 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 4:31 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 5:17 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/8/11 11:44 a.m.
LMAO.	Hitmonchan107	6/7/11 12:20 a.m.