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Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)
Posted By: ghost factionDate: 6/7/11 12:12 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-) (Frankie)


: I think the idea that it's a binary decision is faulty. We didnt say,
: "THIS CANNOT BE DONE" or "THIS ONE IS BETTER" we
: simply evaluated our options, the time we had, the technological problems,
: the relative compromises involved, and a million other factors, and came
: to a logical decision.

: If we were certain that everyone would be happy with it, one way or the
: other, it wouldn't have been a difficult decision. This is a very complex
: product, with a lot of moving parts, and we had to execute correctly on a
: complex plan.

: Would a LARGE subset of Halo fans like a CE MP remaster? Of course. That's
: not the issue. The issue is the hundreds of other pieces of a very big
: puzzle.

: Funnily enough, GhaleonEB of all people, fell on a strange side of the
: "purity" map by pointing out that he did in fact wat some
: updates to the Campaign mode - vehicle boarding and a couple of other
: "modern" features.

: Halo Anniversary as a package is a celebration of 10 years of Halo, and that
: includes a lot of different types of fans and tastes.

: And netcode for co-op is actually radically different than MP. They are not
: the same beast.

: This isn't supposed to sound argumentative, there's no argument really. It's
: just a description of the process and problem spaces something as complex
: as this creates.

When I think of Halo the first thing that comes to mind are Halo 1 LAN parties. Memorizing weapon spawns, backpack reloading, Warthog clipping, double melee... hours upon hours of soda, pizza, and Halo. I made a personal connection to Halo 1's MP (I even dreamed once that I saved this boat full of hostages because I won a Halo tournament with my awesome pistol skillz) so when I heard about this remake I was soooo excited that I was going to be able to share this with my current friends.

Then I found out it was going to be on Reach instead. Reach MP? Does that mean that my sacred Halo 1 maps are going to be defiled by armor lock and bloom?? It's like Halo 1 MP is being punished by being put into Reach. Besides the new FF map, all of the good Halo 1 maps have already been Forged and put into the "Classic" playlist in Reach. They all play as correctly as Reach can handle. Spending real dev time to basically make the Forge remakes look "pretty" seems like a lot of wasted time.

From what I've seen from videos, if I were to play the Campaign, I would definitely choose to use the old graphics. I know that the Halo 1 graphical choices were made because of the hardware limitations but I fell in love with it's simplistic design. All of these new nooks and crannies in the design are pointless. They add no function to the Halo installation and are distractions at best. Same with the new AR and the old AR. In my opinion the older one looks much better. It doesn't have all of these divits that dirt and junk could collect. It was cold, hard metal because it was a tool of death.

I still have my old Halo 1 disk to play campaign with Halo 1 graphics. Anyone I would play online co-op with I could play offline co-op already. The Halo 1 maps have been successfully forged into Reach. What's left to justify the $40 price tag? A new FF map?

Halo 1 MP created the console LAN party. Halo 1 MP made Halo the game to play. The M6D pistol is the backbone of Halo 1 MP. So therefore the M6D gets screwed out of every single other Halo game made to date? I just don't understand that when it's the perfect time to bring it back, you guys screw us out of it again. What did we do to deserve this?


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Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)GrimBrother One 6/6/11 9:12 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)TDSpiral 6/6/11 9:13 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)katancik 6/7/11 12:54 a.m.
     I guess I'm a just very visual person...Leviathan 6/6/11 9:21 p.m.
           Better than the one in the HA trailer...ZackDark 6/6/11 9:24 p.m.
                 Doesn't make it any better.Quirel 6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
                       Re: Doesn't make it any better.General Battuta 6/6/11 11:08 p.m.
                             Re: Doesn't make it any better.Quirel 6/7/11 12:11 a.m.
                                   This^ made me chuckle. *NM*Vandle Valsher 6/7/11 7:02 a.m.
                                         GoodQuirel 6/7/11 10:14 a.m.
                 Yeah, MC looked fuglyGilver 6/6/11 9:33 p.m.
                       Re: Yeah, MC looked fuglyLurono 6/6/11 10:11 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ZackDark 6/6/11 9:22 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)DEEP NNN 6/6/11 9:48 p.m.
     Time to dust off the Mister Chief!Schedonnardus 6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)snakegriffin 6/6/11 9:30 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)SPARTAN-034 6/6/11 9:39 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ZackDark 6/6/11 9:45 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Sep7imus [subnova] 6/6/11 10:52 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)SPU7N1K 6/6/11 9:32 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)frankie 6/6/11 9:42 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Leviathan 6/6/11 9:44 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Quirel 6/6/11 9:54 p.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-INSANEdrive 6/6/11 10:00 p.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-Buttskunk 6/6/11 10:06 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)TDSpiral 6/6/11 10:08 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Pkmnrulz240 6/6/11 10:20 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)SPU7N1K 6/6/11 11:15 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)goCHIEFgo 6/7/11 8:50 a.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Pkmnrulz240 6/6/11 10:09 p.m.
     Halo PC map included?DarkS7G 6/6/11 10:38 p.m.
           Re: Halo PC map included?Hunt3r 6/6/11 10:45 p.m.
           My guess... Death Island! *NM*The BS Police 6/6/11 10:49 p.m.
           Re: Halo PC map included?elessar787 6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
           Re: Halo PC map included?DogCow 6/8/11 4:50 p.m.
     this brought me back, baby.Hunt3r 6/6/11 10:44 p.m.
           Re: this brought me back, baby.MaCeGaC 6/6/11 10:51 p.m.
                 Re: this brought me back, baby.DHalo 6/6/11 11:04 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Frankie 6/6/11 11:36 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)NOKYARD 6/6/11 11:59 p.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 12:41 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)shadow8p 6/7/11 2:44 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 12:12 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 12:52 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 1:00 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Lurono 6/7/11 3:34 p.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/9/11 1:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Lurono 6/9/11 2:00 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/9/11 6:52 p.m.
                                               Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/9/11 7:21 p.m.
                                                     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/10/11 6:03 a.m.
                                                           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/10/11 11:50 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/10/11 7:40 p.m.
                 We need to talk, Frank.Gravemind 6/7/11 2:52 a.m.
                       Re: We need to talk, Frank.Narcogen 6/7/11 3:12 a.m.
                             Re: We need to talk, Frank.Gravemind 6/7/11 3:40 a.m.
                                   Re: We need to talk, Frank.Narcogen 6/7/11 4:24 a.m.
                                   Pssst...Wayward Spleen™ 6/7/11 7:03 a.m.
                                   Re: We need to talk, Frank.Miguel Chavez 6/7/11 9:37 a.m.
                                         Re: We need to talk, Frank.Wayward Spleen™ 6/7/11 10:27 a.m.
                                         Re: We need to talk, Frank.Gravemind 6/7/11 11:51 a.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.Wayward Spleen™ 6/7/11 12:34 p.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.mnemesis 6/7/11 12:53 p.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.Dagoonite 6/7/11 9:09 p.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.Narcogen 6/8/11 1:45 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Btcc22 6/7/11 11:24 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Dundre 6/8/11 2:12 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)DogCow 6/8/11 4:18 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 12:49 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 1:09 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 2:20 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 2:33 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 3:22 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 4:33 a.m.
                                               Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 7:06 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/9/11 11:27 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Wayward Spleen™ 6/9/11 11:58 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Dagoonite 6/7/11 1:56 a.m.
     Re: FIREFIGHT mentionChrisTheeCrappy 6/6/11 11:28 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/6/11 11:50 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 12:57 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 1:02 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 2:23 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/9/11 11:13 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 1:03 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 2:31 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 3:25 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)The Loot 6/7/11 3:37 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 4:32 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 4:31 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 5:17 a.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/8/11 11:44 a.m.
     LMAO.Hitmonchan107 6/7/11 12:20 a.m.



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