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| This seems odd to me... | |
| Posted By: stan | Date: 10/5/07 12:18 p.m. |
In Response To: WWU up!? (Psychophan7) Bungie (with Halo) pretty much made Microsoft's console gaming enterprise work. The just created a game that enjoyed the most successful launch of any game ever. And then, just two weeks later, Microsoft lets them go. And they weren't even being investigated for perjury. I say that because in a lot of ways (and this is just a very shallow, uninformed initial reaction) this reminds me of Barry Bonds and the San Francisco Giants. Bonds made the Giants one of the most successful (in terms of selling tickets) franchises since 2000. He brought people to the park which he basically built himself (in the way that Ruth built Yankee stadium) and he made the Giants a lot of money. But then, right after breaking the all-time home run record, they let him go, even though he can still perform, and even though he can still draw lots of fans. Now, obviously there are big big big differences between these two situations (Bungie is not reviled or old and past their prime), but on a very simple level, they strike me as somewhat similar. It's almost like Microsoft was just waiting for Bungie to knock out Halo 3 before letting them go, kinda like how the Giants were waiting (and it was a long wait) for Barry to hit 756. The Giants have been Barry Bonds and little else for the last seven (if not 15) years, just as Xbox has been dominated by Halo for its entire existence. I've got a feeling that Microsoft wanted to get what it knew it could get out of Bungie (that's why they bought them in the first place after all) but didn't want Halo (or Bungie) to end up defining the xbox. Of course, that interpretation short-changes Bungie in a lot of ways as I'm sure Bungie will enjoy their independence (Bond's, on the other hand, didn't have a say in all this and in any case wanted to stay with San Francisco). But at the same time, there's gotta be something to be said for having the largest software developer in the world behind you when you're making your dream game. I mean, could Halo 3 have been made without the resources that Microsoft brought to the table? (I honestly don't know, I don't know much about video game developing) I don't know, I'm sure I'm way off here. This just popped into my head so I figured I'd type it out.
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| WWU up!? | Psychophan7 | 10/5/07 10:13 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Impervium | 10/5/07 10:14 a.m. |
| Congratulations, Bungie :-) *NM* | mnemesis | 10/5/07 10:15 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Ma1agate | 10/5/07 10:17 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 11:30 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | raptor117 | 10/5/07 11:35 a.m. |
| Is this technically a coup? *NM* | Ross Mills | 10/5/07 10:17 a.m. |
| Maybe the new contract was signed in blood. *NM* | DiscipleN2k | 10/5/07 12:46 p.m. |
| Niiice! Awesome, Bungie! *NM* | Clefton Twain | 10/5/07 10:22 a.m. |
| Yay bungie!!! *NM* | The Cancers | 10/5/07 10:29 a.m. |
| Bungie is free | PsychoRaven | 10/5/07 10:36 a.m. |
| Was I the only one looking forward to HaloKart? *NM* | Ross Mills | 10/5/07 10:38 a.m. |
| You may yet be in luck | stickfigureninja | 10/5/07 10:42 a.m. |
| Re: You may yet be in luck | Sno564 | 10/5/07 10:46 a.m. |
| The Million Dollar Question | vector40 | 10/5/07 10:38 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | Louis Wu | 10/5/07 10:39 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | PsychoRaven | 10/5/07 10:40 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | Miguel Chavez | 10/5/07 10:42 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | Ma1agate | 10/5/07 10:44 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | mercury | 10/5/07 10:46 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | Louis Wu | 10/5/07 10:48 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | mercury | 10/5/07 10:52 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | gspawn | 10/5/07 11:15 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | devolver | 10/5/07 11:44 a.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | madcowjim | 10/5/07 12:54 p.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 12:58 p.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | Louis Wu | 10/5/07 1:17 p.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 1:22 p.m. |
| yay Bungie! *waves a little bungie flag* wooo! *NM* | FrogBlast | 10/5/07 1:22 p.m. |
| If Bungie makes a brand new record-breaking game | Juan_Anselm | 10/5/07 5:19 p.m. |
| Re: If Bungie makes a brand new record-breaking ga | Wado | 10/5/07 6:11 p.m. |
| Re: If Bungie makes a brand new record-breaking ga | Corinthian | 10/5/07 6:17 p.m. |
| Re: If Bungie makes a brand new record-breaking ga | Wado | 10/5/07 7:16 p.m. |
| Re: If Bungie makes a brand new record-breaking ga | Juan_Anselm | 10/5/07 7:14 p.m. |
| Re: If Bungie makes a brand new record-breaking ga | Louis Wu | 10/5/07 7:26 p.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | S043 | 10/5/07 12:55 p.m. |
| Re: The Million Dollar Question | fate | 10/5/07 2:13 p.m. |
| The Ten Dollar Question... | DiscipleN2k | 10/5/07 12:50 p.m. |
| congrats, bungie! *NM* | trigger119 | 10/5/07 10:40 a.m. |
| Wonga is right. *NM* | pillar of awesome | 10/5/07 10:44 a.m. |
| Wonga? *NM* *NM* | Sephlock | 10/5/07 11:28 a.m. |
| see also: BOOSH, yahtzee, haiyo, (@_@) *NM* | gspawn | 10/5/07 11:31 a.m. |
| Just don't make any game for the PS3... | The 7th Knight | 10/5/07 10:44 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | thelastmaian | 10/5/07 10:49 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | Corinthian | 10/5/07 10:54 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | stickfigureninja | 10/5/07 10:50 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | devolver | 10/5/07 10:55 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | devolver | 10/5/07 11:03 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | mnemesis | 10/5/07 11:08 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | devolver | 10/5/07 11:23 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 11:41 a.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | Walshicus | 10/5/07 12:04 p.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | XLNC | 10/5/07 12:12 p.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | Walshicus | 10/5/07 12:21 p.m. |
| Re: Just don't make any game for the PS3... | devolver | 10/5/07 12:47 p.m. |
| Well... | pillar of awesome | 10/5/07 10:53 a.m. |
| Now to wait 2 years for their new IP annoucement.. *NM* | Regicid3 | 10/5/07 11:24 a.m. |
| not to mention... | The Cancers | 10/5/07 12:01 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Caiaphas BoT | 10/5/07 10:52 a.m. |
| Guess we can finally move onto WoHalocraft | Grey Wolf | 10/5/07 10:53 a.m. |
| I don't know what to think? *NM* | Regicid3 | 10/5/07 10:59 a.m. |
| Re: Guess we can finally move onto WoHalocraft | Asp | 10/5/07 11:50 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | ResilientMonkey | 10/5/07 10:57 a.m. |
| now we're never going to know what that planet is! | Regicid3 | 10/5/07 11:05 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 11:11 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | stickfigureninja | 10/5/07 11:15 a.m. |
| If nothing was supposed to change... | Regicid3 | 10/5/07 11:19 a.m. |
| Re: If nothing was supposed to change... | stickfigureninja | 10/5/07 11:25 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Ma1agate | 10/5/07 1:29 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Ducain | 10/5/07 11:13 a.m. |
| Re: *chhhk* Catapult is a go. *chhhhk* | gspawn | 10/5/07 11:18 a.m. |
| Re: Bungie ≠ Manatees | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 11:19 a.m. |
| Dolphins kill sharks! | scarab | 10/5/07 11:22 a.m. |
| Dolphins are just gay sharks *NM* | Ross Mills | 10/5/07 11:52 a.m. |
| ^ *SP!* | mnemesis | 10/5/07 11:58 a.m. |
| Sorry >_ *NM* | Ross Mills | 10/5/07 12:28 p.m. |
| Biology isn't your strong suit :-) *NM* | scarab | 10/5/07 4:37 p.m. |
| HBO: Always moving. Like a shark. | Jordan117 | 10/5/07 11:34 a.m. |
| Re: HBO: Always moving. Like a shark. | gspawn | 10/5/07 11:40 a.m. |
| THIS. IS. SPARTA! *NM* | rapture | 10/5/07 11:30 a.m. |
| *Kicks Truth Into Big Hole* *NM* | ViralSyris | 10/5/07 11:34 a.m. |
| He floats out on his Hottub CHAIR!!! *NM* | gunluva | 10/5/07 1:39 p.m. |
| Narc, write up some thoughts, ploz? :o | Regicid3 | 10/5/07 11:45 a.m. |
| It went like this (with campaign SPOILZ) | pillar of awesome | 10/5/07 11:57 a.m. |
| Continued like this (with campaign SPOILZ) | Jammerfer [MunKy] | 10/5/07 12:22 p.m. |
| This seems odd to me... | stan | 10/5/07 12:18 p.m. |
| Re: This seems odd to me... | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 12:30 p.m. |
| Re: This seems odd to me... | Regicid3 | 10/5/07 12:40 p.m. |
| Re: This seems odd to me... | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 12:46 p.m. |
| Re: This seems odd to me... | stickfigureninja | 10/5/07 2:03 p.m. |
| Right but... | stan | 10/5/07 1:07 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 1:19 p.m. |
| Ah, good point. *NM* | stan | 10/5/07 1:23 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | Warbow | 10/5/07 1:43 p.m. |
| That Makes Me a Sad Panda :( *NM* | Clefton Twain | 10/5/07 1:46 p.m. |
| Me too. *NM* | Warbow | 10/5/07 1:48 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | Wado | 10/5/07 2:22 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | Charley117 | 10/5/07 2:46 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | Louis Wu | 10/5/07 2:50 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | mercury | 10/5/07 2:24 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | mnemesis | 10/5/07 3:00 p.m. |
| Re: Right but... | mercury | 10/5/07 5:13 p.m. |
| Re: This seems odd to me... | gspawn | 10/5/07 12:45 p.m. |
| Re: This seems odd to me... | stickfigureninja | 10/5/07 2:07 p.m. |
| Re: This seems odd to me... | Wado | 10/5/07 2:32 p.m. |
| happy | Kermit | 10/5/07 12:28 p.m. |
| PIMPS at SEA lives | Wado | 10/5/07 12:28 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | FrogBlast | 10/5/07 12:31 p.m. |
| *raises chalice* | Druff | 10/5/07 12:32 p.m. |
| So, who DOES own Bungie? | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 12:36 p.m. |
| Re: So, who DOES own Bungie? | MthdDirector | 10/5/07 2:46 p.m. |
| Re: So, who DOES own Bungie? | Wayward Spleen™ | 10/5/07 6:06 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | bentllama | 10/5/07 12:48 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 1:03 p.m. |
| Bent.. can you PUH-LEEZE unblock me? :( :P *NM* | Littlebigman | 10/5/07 1:05 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Wado | 10/5/07 1:18 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | bentllama | 10/5/07 1:50 p.m. |
| Now I'm too hungry to post :) *NM* *NM* | Wado | 10/5/07 2:39 p.m. |
| Best pancake recipe - no blasphemy | Dry Ice | 10/5/07 2:59 p.m. |
| Pancakes safer than Waffles - OT | Wado | 10/22/07 2:25 p.m. |
| Prepare the Slingshot!! *NM* | raptor117 | 10/5/07 1:00 p.m. |
| Congrats from Mthd | MthdDirector | 10/5/07 1:23 p.m. |
| Whoa! Interesting. *NM* | Brian | 10/5/07 1:42 p.m. |
| Does this mean Marty is free? | Shishka | 10/5/07 1:45 p.m. |
| Re: Does this mean Marty is free? | LoneRanger 2.5 | 10/5/07 3:53 p.m. |
| Re: Does this mean Marty is free? | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 4:01 p.m. |
| Re: Does this mean Marty is free? | LoneRanger 2.5 | 10/5/07 7:33 p.m. |
| Re: Does this mean Marty is free? | Louis Wu | 10/5/07 7:36 p.m. |
| Re: Does this mean Marty is free? | LoneRanger 2.5 | 10/5/07 9:44 p.m. |
| This post needs more love. *NM* | reprobate | 10/5/07 6:18 p.m. |
| Yes, Marty has left The View. *NM* | Matt | 10/5/07 8:34 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Psyrixx | 10/5/07 4:15 p.m. |
| That's never, EVER, going to happen. *NM* | Funkmon | 10/6/07 8:46 a.m. |
| "Good dog. Nod back" | mortey | 10/5/07 4:25 p.m. |
| Re: "Good dog. Nod back" | Sep7imus [subnova] | 10/5/07 10:39 p.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | onebitrocket | 10/6/07 5:47 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Regicid3 | 10/6/07 6:43 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | AshofPompei | 10/6/07 8:42 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | Rox | 10/6/07 9:56 a.m. |
| Re: WWU up!? | AshofPompei | 10/6/07 11:00 a.m. |
| very exciting news. I like. *NM* | pooberry (Max Power) | 10/6/07 10:41 a.m. |
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