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Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping

Posted By: RyokoTK Date: 8/17/06 4:32 a.m.
In Response To: Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping (C Lund)

: Another thing to keep in mind is that no matter how well you design your
: maps, there will be players who won't like them. The original release of
: Rubicon was hated by some for it's lack of flow, while others praised it
: for the flow. Some hated it because the levels were non-linear while
: others loved it because the levels were non-linear. There simply is no way
: to please everybody, and if you try you'll end up with levels that are
: like airline food - boring and utterly forgettable. So make your levels
: the way you like them. Find some betatesters who hopefully have a similar
: taste in maps as you do. Listen to what they have to say about your maps
: and make the necessary fixes.
What you should do is, if possible (and yes, the stock of skilled betatesters is pretty damn small), find betatesters that don't have exactly the same tastes as you. People that don't immediately love your product are more likely to find problems, which is why you recruited them in the first place.
Stacks and stacks of comments, complaints, glitches, and what-have-you sure don't look very nice, but they're just doing their job. On the flip side, they do have to enjoy the concept to some degree, otherwise they won't do it.

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: What you should do is, if possible (and yes, the stock of skilled betatesters : is pretty damn small), find betatesters that don't have exactly the same : tastes as you. People that don't immediately love your product are more : likely to find problems, which is why you recruited them in the first : place. : Stacks and stacks of comments, complaints, glitches, and what-have-you sure : don't look very nice, but they're just doing their job. On the flip side, : they do have to enjoy the concept to some degree, otherwise they won't do : it.

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The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 7:00 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/16/06 7:46 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 12:49 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/16/06 2:17 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 6:39 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 9:29 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/17/06 10:00 a.m.
Ditto NM	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 6:44 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 2:18 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/16/06 2:24 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 3:19 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Adam Ashwell	8/16/06 3:47 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 3:53 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 5:36 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 6:50 p.m.
restarts older save game ;) NM	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 5:37 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	rampancy	8/16/06 5:37 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 6:00 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	rampancy	8/16/06 6:19 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 6:48 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	C Lund	8/16/06 11:31 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 4:27 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/17/06 3:44 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	rampancy	8/17/06 9:04 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 9:11 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aachim	8/17/06 12:28 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/17/06 3:47 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/17/06 6:15 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	patrick	8/17/06 8:21 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 9:47 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Scifiteki	8/17/06 1:53 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/17/06 2:19 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	ukimalefu	8/17/06 6:47 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 7:03 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 2:53 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 3:17 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 4:11 p.m.
High-res stuff and very large files	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 4:38 p.m.
Re: High-res stuff and very large files	Blake37	8/17/06 4:51 p.m.
Re: High-res stuff and very large files	treellama	8/17/06 6:25 p.m.
Re: High-res stuff and very large files	ukimalefu	8/17/06 7:00 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 7:16 p.m.
Eternal Pfhor textures	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 5:46 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 8:08 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	C Lund	8/16/06 11:13 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	C Lund	8/16/06 11:03 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 4:32 a.m.
Thanks for all the input--and apologies...	Aaron Sikes	8/17/06 6:33 a.m.
Re: Thanks for all the input--and apologies...	Adam Ashwell	8/17/06 6:53 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 9:10 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 6:02 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/18/06 4:34 p.m.
Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 10:46 a.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Adam Ashwell	8/17/06 11:29 a.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Blake37	8/17/06 12:34 p.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 12:51 p.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Blake37	8/17/06 1:09 p.m.
You insiders are making me jealous NM	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 7:24 p.m.
Everything is on the dev site	Forrest of B.org	8/18/06 1:40 a.m.
Not found error--?? NM	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 5:48 a.m.
Re: Not found error--??	Adam Ashwell	8/18/06 6:25 a.m.
A few notes and a request	Adam Ashwell	8/18/06 10:39 a.m.
Re: A few notes and a request	Blake37	8/18/06 12:05 p.m.



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