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Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping

Posted By: Adam Ashwell Date: 8/16/06 3:47 p.m.
In Response To: Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping (RyokoTK)

: Except that more often than not in RX, the map overlaps eighty bajillion
: times, and though Chris is better with geometry than I ever will be, his
: use of textures rarely helps with getting around. I hate overlooking a
: door five times on one map because it's a gray door set in a gray wall.
: These are the things that should be fixed during beta testing, but so much
: of the community is so easily stunned by good looks that the easy things
: are forgotten. Fun and functionality are ignored in order to send a
: message, and really, realism should only go so far.
I agree that fun comes first, but I think that realism, properly applied, adds a lot to a map. It adds an atmosphere and a sense that it's more than just a space designed for the player to run around and kill things in. Realism can kill maps, but in small doses it very much improves them, in my opinion. While occasionally in Rubicon I found myself frustrated with level design, I never felt that the maps were merely eye-candy and smooth aesthetics.

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: I agree that fun comes first, but I think that realism, properly applied, : adds a lot to a map. It adds an atmosphere and a sense that it's more than : just a space designed for the player to run around and kill things in. : Realism can kill maps, but in small doses it very much improves them, in : my opinion. While occasionally in Rubicon I found myself frustrated with : level design, I never felt that the maps were merely eye-candy and smooth : aesthetics.

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The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 7:00 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/16/06 7:46 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 12:49 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/16/06 2:17 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 6:39 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 9:29 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/17/06 10:00 a.m.
Ditto NM	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 6:44 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 2:18 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/16/06 2:24 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 3:19 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Adam Ashwell	8/16/06 3:47 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 3:53 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/16/06 5:36 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 6:50 p.m.
restarts older save game ;) NM	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 5:37 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	rampancy	8/16/06 5:37 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 6:00 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	rampancy	8/16/06 6:19 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/16/06 6:48 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	C Lund	8/16/06 11:31 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 4:27 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/17/06 3:44 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	rampancy	8/17/06 9:04 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 9:11 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aachim	8/17/06 12:28 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/17/06 3:47 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/17/06 6:15 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	patrick	8/17/06 8:21 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 9:47 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Scifiteki	8/17/06 1:53 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Blake37	8/17/06 2:19 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	ukimalefu	8/17/06 6:47 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 7:03 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 2:53 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 3:17 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 4:11 p.m.
High-res stuff and very large files	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 4:38 p.m.
Re: High-res stuff and very large files	Blake37	8/17/06 4:51 p.m.
Re: High-res stuff and very large files	treellama	8/17/06 6:25 p.m.
Re: High-res stuff and very large files	ukimalefu	8/17/06 7:00 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 7:16 p.m.
Eternal Pfhor textures	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 5:46 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 8:08 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	C Lund	8/16/06 11:13 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	C Lund	8/16/06 11:03 p.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 4:32 a.m.
Thanks for all the input--and apologies...	Aaron Sikes	8/17/06 6:33 a.m.
Re: Thanks for all the input--and apologies...	Adam Ashwell	8/17/06 6:53 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/17/06 9:10 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 6:02 a.m.
Re: The politics/philosphy of mapping	RyokoTK	8/18/06 4:34 p.m.
Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 10:46 a.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Adam Ashwell	8/17/06 11:29 a.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Blake37	8/17/06 12:34 p.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Forrest of B.org	8/17/06 12:51 p.m.
Re: Scrap it and rebuild from scratch	Blake37	8/17/06 1:09 p.m.
You insiders are making me jealous NM	Steve Levinson	8/17/06 7:24 p.m.
Everything is on the dev site	Forrest of B.org	8/18/06 1:40 a.m.
Not found error--?? NM	Aaron Sikes	8/18/06 5:48 a.m.
Re: Not found error--??	Adam Ashwell	8/18/06 6:25 a.m.
A few notes and a request	Adam Ashwell	8/18/06 10:39 a.m.
Re: A few notes and a request	Blake37	8/18/06 12:05 p.m.



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