Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one


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Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one

Posted By: Steve Levinson Date: 7/10/04 8:10 p.m.
In Response To: Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one (Me_43)

: If the Universe winds up into chaos, well put it this way, if it had *not*
: ascended into chaos, then it would be entirely homogenous, better
: described as empty. So, the Universe always has 'wound into the chaos', if
: it hadn't, there would be no Marathon (shudder), no people to play it
: (argh) or even computers to make it with (ergo no reason to live )
Fraid you got it backwards. Maximum entropy means a descent into ultimate chaos - the dissolution of matter. As per Webster's, entropy is "the tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity." An empty universe has no entropy only becuase it has no substance. But a universe with substance has increasing entropy with decreasing structure. There is a very good book from many years back titled The River that Runs Uphill. If you think of the energy associated with entropy as you think of gravity, entropy increases (energy is released) when matter decays. The evolution of life invoves the creation of structures of increasing complexity and decreasing entropy. Life is in effect the opposite of chaos - it flows uphill.

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: Fraid you got it backwards. Maximum entropy means a descent into ultimate : chaos - the dissolution of matter. As per Webster's, entropy is "the : tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a : state of inert uniformity." An empty universe has no entropy only : becuase it has no substance. But a universe with substance has increasing : entropy with decreasing structure. There is a very good book from many : years back titled The River that Runs Uphill . If you think of the energy : associated with entropy as you think of gravity, entropy increases (energy : is released) when matter decays. The evolution of life invoves the : creation of structures of increasing complexity and decreasing entropy. : Life is in effect the opposite of chaos - it flows uphill.

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How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Ernie	7/10/04 12:56 a.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Bob-B-Q	7/10/04 2:49 a.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Steve Levinson	7/10/04 6:18 a.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Forrest of B.org	7/10/04 7:42 a.m.
Nice commentary, Forrest NM	Steve Levinson	7/10/04 8:07 a.m.
Thank you NM	Forrest of B.org	7/10/04 8:43 a.m.
the "True" timeline removing possibilities...?	Ernie	7/10/04 8:12 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Me_43	7/10/04 6:51 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Steve Levinson	7/10/04 8:10 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Forrest of B.org	7/10/04 10:48 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Me_43	7/11/04 11:49 a.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Cheerful	7/12/04 1:29 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Forrest of B.org	7/12/04 1:45 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Yossarian	7/12/04 2:10 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Forrest of B.org	7/12/04 2:20 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Steve Levinson	7/12/04 1:58 p.m.
Re: How the Minf timeline "fixes" the M2 one	Elliott	7/12/04 1:40 p.m.



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	Message: : Fraid you got it backwards. Maximum entropy means a descent into ultimate : chaos - the dissolution of matter. As per Webster's, entropy is "the : tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a : state of inert uniformity." An empty universe has no entropy only : becuase it has no substance. But a universe with substance has increasing : entropy with decreasing structure. There is a very good book from many : years back titled The River that Runs Uphill . If you think of the energy : associated with entropy as you think of gravity, entropy increases (energy : is released) when matter decays. The evolution of life invoves the : creation of structures of increasing complexity and decreasing entropy. : Life is in effect the opposite of chaos - it flows uphill.
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