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Re: Who is your favorite map maker?

Posted By: Steve Levinson Date: 1/31/04 7:09 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Who is your favorite map maker? (Adam Ashwell)

: When it comes to big scenarios, I'm not one to be able to tell who made which
: maps, so I really don't know much about Chris' work. Could you give me a
: few examples of Rubicon maps that he made?
It's a lot easier to mention the maps that Chris didn't make in Rubicon, as he did the vast majority of the work and tweaked everything else. The maps not done by Chris include:
Jeff Schwartz (aka DOA)
Honk if you're an underpaid Cyborg
Five Finger Discount
Tim Thomas
Hex Level 73
Beg, Borrow and Steal
Chris Wondra
People under the stairs
Prize Payment Schedule
Just a little further
iwannavacuum
Of the above levels, I think substantial credit has to be given to DOA for 2 outstanding levels, and Tim Thomas' 2 levels are among my absolute favorites, although most people seem to revile these levels - the stacking of layers upon layers makes map view useless.
Everything else is pure Chris, and among them are some really exceptional levels - Frog Blasting/Blasted Frogs, Exit Leads In and Wading in/Drinking Vitriol to name a few. Chris considers Hell Pfhor You to be his absolute best level, and I also would list it among my favorites. Yes, it's horrendously difficult, but Chris provides an out - a secret path that makes the level beatable by any good player. Chris' imagination and his use of asymmetric designs leads to some really outstanding gameplay, and his texturing and monster placement are supurb, subject to the limitations already mentioned. He may not be an innovator, but his work is first rate.
The last time we had this discussion (it's come up many times in the forum), I also mentioned FM as perhaps the best overall. Unfortunately, his arrogance which is evident in his secret terminals and in his postings on Fireball have brought him down a notch or two in my mind. Chris, on the other hand, is very approachable if not entirely modest. Still, if you're talking about innovation, FM is the absolute star.

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Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 1/30/04 11:36 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 11:47 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/30/04 1:04 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 1:46 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Johannes Gunnar 1/30/04 2:11 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 7:29 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/30/04 7:36 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? the Battle Cat 1/31/04 6:27 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/31/04 6:32 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? the Battle Cat 2/1/04 6:59 a.m.

Praise?! :O oogaBooga 2/3/04 11:09 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/31/04 7:09 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Adam Ashwell 1/31/04 7:21 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/31/04 8:49 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? goran 1/31/04 11:17 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 1/31/04 1:47 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 1/31/04 6:42 p.m.

my big rubicon confession goran 2/1/04 12:02 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession goran 2/1/04 12:31 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/1/04 3:22 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Adam Ashwell 2/1/04 3:52 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession goran 2/2/04 1:08 a.m.

FM's review goran 2/2/04 1:51 a.m.

Re: FM's review D-M.A. 2/2/04 3:01 a.m.

Re: FM's review Yossarian 2/2/04 5:04 a.m.

Re: FM's review Steve Levinson 2/2/04 5:25 a.m.

Re: FM's review oogaBooga 2/3/04 11:23 a.m.

Re: FM's review Steve Levinson 2/3/04 1:10 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/2/04 5:23 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Elliott 2/2/04 9:41 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession the Battle Cat 2/2/04 11:08 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/2/04 3:00 p.m.

That sounds like a plan! =) *NM* the Battle Cat 2/3/04 7:06 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Adam Ashwell 2/2/04 11:30 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession the Battle Cat 2/2/04 9:35 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/2/04 11:02 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession C Lund 2/3/04 1:03 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/3/04 5:20 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Dr. John Sumner 2/3/04 9:25 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession Steve Levinson 2/3/04 11:04 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession C Lund 2/3/04 2:50 p.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession the Battle Cat 2/3/04 7:46 a.m.

Re: my big rubicon confession C Lund 2/3/04 2:55 p.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Vid Boi 1/31/04 4:34 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 1/31/04 7:56 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? deathmonger 2/2/04 7:23 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? deathmonger 2/2/04 7:32 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 2/2/04 9:20 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Steve Levinson 2/2/04 9:37 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 2/2/04 9:59 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? D-M.A. 2/3/04 12:52 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? Elliott 2/3/04 8:16 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? deathmonger 2/2/04 11:25 a.m.

Re: Who is your favorite map maker? the Battle Cat 2/3/04 8:03 a.m.

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: It's a lot easier to mention the maps that Chris didn't make in Rubicon, as : he did the vast majority of the work and tweaked everything else. The maps : not done by Chris include: Jeff Schwartz (aka DOA) : Honk if you're an underpaid Cyborg : Five Finger Discount : Tim Thomas : Hex Level 73 : Beg, Borrow and Steal : Chris Wondra : People under the stairs : Prize Payment Schedule : Just a little further : iwannavacuum : Of the above levels, I think substantial credit has to be given to DOA for 2 : outstanding levels, and Tim Thomas' 2 levels are among my absolute : favorites, although most people seem to revile these levels - the stacking : of layers upon layers makes map view useless. : Everything else is pure Chris, and among them are some really exceptional : levels - Frog Blasting/Blasted Frogs, Exit Leads In and Wading in/Drinking : Vitriol to name a few. Chris considers Hell Pfhor You to be his absolute : best level, and I also would list it among my favorites. Yes, it's : horrendously difficult, but Chris provides an out - a secret path that : makes the level beatable by any good player. Chris' imagination and his : use of asymmetric designs leads to some really outstanding gameplay, and : his texturing and monster placement are supurb, subject to the limitations : already mentioned. He may not be an innovator, but his work is first rate. : The last time we had this discussion (it's come up many times in the forum), : I also mentioned FM as perhaps the best overall. Unfortunately, his : arrogance which is evident in his secret terminals and in his postings on : Fireball have brought him down a notch or two in my mind. Chris, on the : other hand, is very approachable if not entirely modest. Still, if you're : talking about innovation, FM is the absolute star.

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Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/30/04 11:36 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 11:47 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/30/04 1:04 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 1:46 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Johannes Gunnar	1/30/04 2:11 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 7:29 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/30/04 7:36 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	1/31/04 6:27 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/31/04 6:32 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	2/1/04 6:59 a.m.
Praise?! :O	oogaBooga	2/3/04 11:09 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 7:09 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Adam Ashwell	1/31/04 7:21 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 8:49 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	goran	1/31/04 11:17 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/31/04 1:47 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	1/31/04 6:42 p.m.
my big rubicon confession	goran	2/1/04 12:02 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	goran	2/1/04 12:31 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/1/04 3:22 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Adam Ashwell	2/1/04 3:52 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	goran	2/2/04 1:08 a.m.
FM's review	goran	2/2/04 1:51 a.m.
Re: FM's review	D-M.A.	2/2/04 3:01 a.m.
Re: FM's review	Yossarian	2/2/04 5:04 a.m.
Re: FM's review	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 5:25 a.m.
Re: FM's review	oogaBooga	2/3/04 11:23 a.m.
Re: FM's review	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 1:10 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 5:23 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Elliott	2/2/04 9:41 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/2/04 11:08 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 3:00 p.m.
That sounds like a plan! =) NM	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 7:06 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Adam Ashwell	2/2/04 11:30 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/2/04 9:35 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 11:02 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 1:03 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 5:20 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Dr. John Sumner	2/3/04 9:25 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	Steve Levinson	2/3/04 11:04 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 2:50 p.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 7:46 a.m.
Re: my big rubicon confession	C Lund	2/3/04 2:55 p.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Vid Boi	1/31/04 4:34 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	1/31/04 7:56 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 7:23 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 7:32 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/2/04 9:20 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Steve Levinson	2/2/04 9:37 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/2/04 9:59 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	D-M.A.	2/3/04 12:52 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	Elliott	2/3/04 8:16 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	deathmonger	2/2/04 11:25 a.m.
Re: Who is your favorite map maker?	the Battle Cat	2/3/04 8:03 a.m.



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	Message: : It's a lot easier to mention the maps that Chris didn't make in Rubicon, as : he did the vast majority of the work and tweaked everything else. The maps : not done by Chris include: Jeff Schwartz (aka DOA) : Honk if you're an underpaid Cyborg : Five Finger Discount : Tim Thomas : Hex Level 73 : Beg, Borrow and Steal : Chris Wondra : People under the stairs : Prize Payment Schedule : Just a little further : iwannavacuum : Of the above levels, I think substantial credit has to be given to DOA for 2 : outstanding levels, and Tim Thomas' 2 levels are among my absolute : favorites, although most people seem to revile these levels - the stacking : of layers upon layers makes map view useless. : Everything else is pure Chris, and among them are some really exceptional : levels - Frog Blasting/Blasted Frogs, Exit Leads In and Wading in/Drinking : Vitriol to name a few. Chris considers Hell Pfhor You to be his absolute : best level, and I also would list it among my favorites. Yes, it's : horrendously difficult, but Chris provides an out - a secret path that : makes the level beatable by any good player. Chris' imagination and his : use of asymmetric designs leads to some really outstanding gameplay, and : his texturing and monster placement are supurb, subject to the limitations : already mentioned. He may not be an innovator, but his work is first rate. : The last time we had this discussion (it's come up many times in the forum), : I also mentioned FM as perhaps the best overall. Unfortunately, his : arrogance which is evident in his secret terminals and in his postings on : Fireball have brought him down a notch or two in my mind. Chris, on the : other hand, is very approachable if not entirely modest. Still, if you're : talking about innovation, FM is the absolute star.
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