Re: Are there even timelines at all?


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Re: Are there even timelines at all?

Posted By: Philtron Date: 1/5/21 5:25 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Are there even timelines at all? (VikingBoyBilly)

: I never considered that if Durandal's primal pattern stayed in the chip you
: took, the enforcers would have no need to extract the pattern from the
: SO's brain; they would just take the chip. I wouldn't go as far as to say
: it's a non-diegetic representation, it's just... incoherent. We don't get
: any scene of the SO plugging the chip into his head to download the
: pattern or an explanation that he reuploads it to the chip he finds in
: Strange Aeons . These missing pieces could have been explained with
: terminals, but Double Aught didn't.
Indeed. But I think that if the main character has the ability to transfer data from the chips and his brain, he would be able to do it directly with the computers as well. I can't imagine any scenario where one method couldn't apply to both situations.
We could chalk up the incoherence to Double Aught being sloppy, but I prefer to avoid that as much as possible.
How did Durandal survive in M2 again?
: He doesn't have multiple cores in two different locations that are able to
: activate him fully without assistance from the others? Are you suggesting
: that, not only are events between M1 and M2 changed in these times, but
: changes go all the way back to Lh'owon's ancient history to where the
: S'pht (Or jjarro, Sbbhuth, or whoever) decided to put Thoth's installation
: site? My occam's razor just parsed this as "Double Aught wanted to
: make new levels instead of reusing maps from M2" and never thought
: about it.
I'm not sure what you're asking. But, I'm suggesting that reality itself is different in different chapters. And yeah, I guess that would mean that certain things go back millions of years, or however long ago.
Like I said in my very first post. I think one way to look at Infinity is like those "what if" issues in comics, where certain things are just arbitrarily different because the writers thought it would be interesting to do it that way.
: When you lay it all out like that, it reminds me of when someone told me
: Ender Wiggin is a Gary Stu, and I can't help but agree when he committed
: genocide on an entire hive-mind spacefaring species at a much bigger
: disadvantage, and I can't buy that humans will always have superior
: intelligence to computers when grandmasters cannot beat a self-learning AI
: at chess.
: But, at the end of the day, even though Durandal did a huge number on them
: with his AI advantage, he still couldn't win without the s'pht'kr (and
: still can't win even then because of Trih Xeem).
What makes you think Durandal can't win without the S'pht'kr?
I really don't see any way of reading Ne Cede Malis except as Durandal beating the Pfhor on his own. I mean, it's technically possible he summoned K'lia, but nothing suggests that in the level.

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: Indeed. But I think that if the main character has the ability to transfer : data from the chips and his brain, he would be able to do it directly with : the computers as well. I can't imagine any scenario where one method : couldn't apply to both situations. : We could chalk up the incoherence to Double Aught being sloppy, but I prefer : to avoid that as much as possible. : How did Durandal survive in M2 again? : I'm not sure what you're asking. But, I'm suggesting that reality itself is : different in different chapters. And yeah, I guess that would mean that : certain things go back millions of years, or however long ago. : Like I said in my very first post. I think one way to look at Infinity is : like those "what if" issues in comics, where certain things are : just arbitrarily different because the writers thought it would be : interesting to do it that way. : What makes you think Durandal can't win without the S'pht'kr? : I really don't see any way of reading Ne Cede Malis except as Durandal : beating the Pfhor on his own. I mean, it's technically possible he : summoned K'lia, but nothing suggests that in the level.

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Infinity: the Story: Chapt 2, Part 1/2	Philtron	12/16/20 2:21 p.m.
Re: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 2, Part 1/2	Philtron	12/16/20 6:45 p.m.
Re: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 2, Part 1/2	Godot	12/16/20 11:33 p.m.
Re: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 2, Part 1/2	Philtron	12/17/20 3:38 p.m.
Re: Infinity: the Story: Chapt 2, Part 1/2	HamburgerBoy	1/2/21 8:26 p.m.
Are there even timelines at all?	Durandal_1707	1/2/21 11:07 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	General-RADIX	1/2/21 11:54 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Durandal_1707	1/3/21 6:41 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Godot	1/3/21 7:39 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Philtron	1/3/21 12:02 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Forrest of B.org	1/4/21 1:01 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Durandal_1707	1/4/21 7:27 a.m.
Re: map layouts	Document	1/4/21 9:22 a.m.
Re: map layouts	VikingBoyBilly	1/4/21 10:15 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Philtron	1/4/21 4:15 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Durandal_1707	1/4/21 7:26 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	General-RADIX	1/5/21 6:13 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Philtron	1/5/21 5:17 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Philtron	1/5/21 5:12 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	VikingBoyBilly	1/6/21 8:05 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	VikingBoyBilly	1/5/21 5:48 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Philtron	1/5/21 5:25 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	VikingBoyBilly	1/6/21 8:42 a.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Forrest of B.org	1/6/21 9:59 p.m.
Re: Are there even timelines at all?	Godot	1/8/21 5:21 a.m.



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