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Re: I would like some more help...

Posted By: Document Date: 10/3/06 1:18 p.m.
In Response To: Re: I would like some more help... (MrHen)

: How long have the Player and Durandal known each other? I seem to recall
: dates on the creation of the Battleriods, but did the Player and Durandal
: interact before the Marathon shipped?
: I am assuming that Durandal existed before the Marathon. I guess I never
: bothered to look that one up either. :P
From the Marathon 2 manual: "Durandal had always been unpredictable, even when he was just opening doors and managing food processors three hundred years ago on Mars." So, probably yes. We don't really know where the player's false memories (like his childhood on Mars) end and his real ones begin, but that detail would be kind of pointless if it turned out to have never happened.
Were all known battleroids created during 2194-2214 (ref: Beware of Low-Flying Defense Drones)? If so, when was Mjolnir 54 thawed out for the Marathon mission? How did they ensure that he believed he was going of his own free will?
I guess if you really wanted to connect everything together, you could write a fanfic where one of the characters from PID later became Durandal. But I think Bungie would have dropped some hints if they intended something like that (apart from the bit where Angry Durandal "reminds you of something from your past"). Still, if the player is really Eddings, and he really spent 1994-2194 just wandering the planets immortal, then he was probably at least aware of Durandal's creation. Or was he in stasis during that time for some reason or another?
Maybe the memory is of some chance encounter with a human whose brain was later used to create Durandal (or Traxus)? Could Gheritt White have been a real individual?
Of course, it's equally likely that the face he remembers is some other evil genius from his past, such as Strauss or Muller. It doesn't have to be Durandal himself.
You really have to make an ass-massive number of assumptions to say anything at all about Marathon's story. I'm aware of Matt's statement that most of the complexity is accidental, but dang(ed) if it isn't fun. Besides, you have to decide on *some* things if you want to add to the story.

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Marathon for Source Claude Errera 9/29/06 2:54 a.m.

NO *NM* ukimalefu 9/29/06 5:41 a.m.

YES *NM* D-M.A. 9/29/06 6:17 a.m.

AWESOME *NM* kyjel 9/29/06 6:23 a.m.

Re: Marathon for Source Forrest of B.org 9/29/06 7:09 a.m.

Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :) *NM* D-M.A. 9/29/06 7:29 a.m.

Re: Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :) Forrest of B.org 9/29/06 8:53 a.m.

Re: Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :) Document 9/29/06 9:49 a.m.

Re: Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :) D-M.A. 9/29/06 10:20 a.m.

wait... Logicware? *NM* D-M.A. 9/29/06 10:21 a.m.

Re: wait... Logicware? Forrest of B.org 9/29/06 2:27 p.m.

Re: Marathon for Source Document 9/29/06 7:53 a.m.

DOUBLE YES Bob-B-Q 9/30/06 4:24 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Document 9/30/06 7:32 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Forrest of B.org 9/30/06 11:22 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Claude Errera 9/30/06 5:53 p.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Forrest of B.org 9/30/06 10:46 p.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES mitchellan 10/1/06 5:39 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Forrest of B.org 10/1/06 10:32 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES D-M.A. 10/1/06 11:04 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Bob-B-Q 10/1/06 11:38 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Document 10/1/06 11:26 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES swolf 10/1/06 12:03 p.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES treellama 9/30/06 7:30 p.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES mitchellan 10/1/06 5:41 a.m.

Re: DOUBLE YES Document 10/1/06 11:37 a.m.

I would like some more help... MrHen 10/2/06 7:28 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Forrest of B.org 10/2/06 7:47 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... MrHen 10/3/06 10:33 a.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Document 10/3/06 1:18 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Matt 10/3/06 6:54 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... *LINK* Document 10/4/06 7:49 a.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Matt 10/4/06 10:46 a.m.

"Vocally"? *NM* Andrew Nagy 7/29/07 8:55 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Document 10/8/06 8:21 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Document 10/24/06 7:32 a.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Document 10/24/06 8:53 a.m.

http://traxus.jjaro.net/ ? *NM* thermoplyae 10/5/06 8:16 a.m.

Wondering about related help... Aaron Sikes 10/4/06 6:06 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Document 10/2/06 10:25 p.m.

Re: I would like some more help... MrHen 10/3/06 10:37 a.m.

Re: I would like some more help... Document 10/12/06 10:45 a.m.

Locked already. Next time, I guess. *NM* Document 10/12/06 11:25 a.m.

Blast. *NM* MrHen 10/14/06 12:45 p.m.

Re: Locked already. Next time, I guess. Document 11/17/06 10:04 a.m.

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: From the Marathon 2 manual: "Durandal had always been unpredictable, : even when he was just opening doors and managing food processors three : hundred years ago on Mars." So, probably yes. We don't really know : where the player's false memories (like his childhood on Mars ) end and : his real ones begin, but that detail would be kind of pointless if it : turned out to have never happened. : Were all known battleroids created during 2194-2214 (ref: Beware of : Low-Flying Defense Drones )? If so, when was Mjolnir 54 thawed out for the : Marathon mission? How did they ensure that he believed he was going of his : own free will? : I guess if you really wanted to connect everything together, you could write : a fanfic where one of the characters from PID later became Durandal. But I : think Bungie would have dropped some hints if they intended something like : that (apart from the bit where Angry Durandal "reminds you of : something from your past" ). Still, if the player is really Eddings : , and he really spent 1994-2194 just wandering the planets immortal, then : he was probably at least aware of Durandal's creation. Or was he in stasis : during that time for some reason or another? : Maybe the memory is of some chance encounter with a human whose brain was : later used to create Durandal (or Traxus)? Could Gheritt White have been a : real individual? : Of course, it's equally likely that the face he remembers is some other evil : genius from his past, such as Strauss or Muller. It doesn't have to be : Durandal himself. : You really have to make an ass-massive number of assumptions to say anything : at all about Marathon's story. I'm aware of Matt's statement that most of : the complexity is accidental, but dang(ed) if it isn't fun. Besides, you : have to decide on *some* things if you want to add to the story.

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Marathon for Source	Claude Errera	9/29/06 2:54 a.m.
NO NM	ukimalefu	9/29/06 5:41 a.m.
YES NM	D-M.A.	9/29/06 6:17 a.m.
AWESOME NM	kyjel	9/29/06 6:23 a.m.
Re: Marathon for Source	Forrest of B.org	9/29/06 7:09 a.m.
Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :) NM	D-M.A.	9/29/06 7:29 a.m.
Re: Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :)	Forrest of B.org	9/29/06 8:53 a.m.
Re: Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :)	Document	9/29/06 9:49 a.m.
Re: Actually, it runs on Intel Macs :)	D-M.A.	9/29/06 10:20 a.m.
wait... Logicware? NM	D-M.A.	9/29/06 10:21 a.m.
Re: wait... Logicware?	Forrest of B.org	9/29/06 2:27 p.m.
Re: Marathon for Source	Document	9/29/06 7:53 a.m.
DOUBLE YES	Bob-B-Q	9/30/06 4:24 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Document	9/30/06 7:32 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Forrest of B.org	9/30/06 11:22 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Claude Errera	9/30/06 5:53 p.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Forrest of B.org	9/30/06 10:46 p.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	mitchellan	10/1/06 5:39 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Forrest of B.org	10/1/06 10:32 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	D-M.A.	10/1/06 11:04 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Bob-B-Q	10/1/06 11:38 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Document	10/1/06 11:26 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	swolf	10/1/06 12:03 p.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	treellama	9/30/06 7:30 p.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	mitchellan	10/1/06 5:41 a.m.
Re: DOUBLE YES	Document	10/1/06 11:37 a.m.
I would like some more help...	MrHen	10/2/06 7:28 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Forrest of B.org	10/2/06 7:47 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	MrHen	10/3/06 10:33 a.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Document	10/3/06 1:18 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Matt	10/3/06 6:54 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help... LINK	Document	10/4/06 7:49 a.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Matt	10/4/06 10:46 a.m.
"Vocally"? NM	Andrew Nagy	7/29/07 8:55 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Document	10/8/06 8:21 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Document	10/24/06 7:32 a.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Document	10/24/06 8:53 a.m.
http://traxus.jjaro.net/ ? NM	thermoplyae	10/5/06 8:16 a.m.
Wondering about related help...	Aaron Sikes	10/4/06 6:06 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Document	10/2/06 10:25 p.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	MrHen	10/3/06 10:37 a.m.
Re: I would like some more help...	Document	10/12/06 10:45 a.m.
Locked already. Next time, I guess. NM	Document	10/12/06 11:25 a.m.
Blast. NM	MrHen	10/14/06 12:45 p.m.
Re: Locked already. Next time, I guess.	Document	11/17/06 10:04 a.m.



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	Message: : From the Marathon 2 manual: "Durandal had always been unpredictable, : even when he was just opening doors and managing food processors three : hundred years ago on Mars." So, probably yes. We don't really know : where the player's false memories (like his childhood on Mars ) end and : his real ones begin, but that detail would be kind of pointless if it : turned out to have never happened. : Were all known battleroids created during 2194-2214 (ref: Beware of : Low-Flying Defense Drones )? If so, when was Mjolnir 54 thawed out for the : Marathon mission? How did they ensure that he believed he was going of his : own free will? : I guess if you really wanted to connect everything together, you could write : a fanfic where one of the characters from PID later became Durandal. But I : think Bungie would have dropped some hints if they intended something like : that (apart from the bit where Angry Durandal "reminds you of : something from your past" ). Still, if the player is really Eddings : , and he really spent 1994-2194 just wandering the planets immortal, then : he was probably at least aware of Durandal's creation. Or was he in stasis : during that time for some reason or another? : Maybe the memory is of some chance encounter with a human whose brain was : later used to create Durandal (or Traxus)? Could Gheritt White have been a : real individual? : Of course, it's equally likely that the face he remembers is some other evil : genius from his past, such as Strauss or Muller. It doesn't have to be : Durandal himself. : You really have to make an ass-massive number of assumptions to say anything : at all about Marathon's story. I'm aware of Matt's statement that most of : the complexity is accidental, but dang(ed) if it isn't fun. Besides, you : have to decide on some things if you want to add to the story.
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