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Re: My thoughts on Halo 4
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>	Date: 2/26/13 3:37 p.m.
In Response To: Re: My thoughts on Halo 4 (thebruce0) : But when it comes to sex, being desensitized can become a downward spiral : everyone can suffer from, regardless of age, just in their own thoughts. I don't know what you're talking about. : Nonetheless, for myself in this particular game, I would of course never : promote the game to kids, precisely because of the violent and sexualized : nature of its content, even in the fantasy setting - there's still a line to be : drawn :) However, it's harder for me simply to share or rave about Halo (4) : to my general audience, as it were, if the first thing they may find is an all-but : completely naked attractive woman. That's been the case since the first game came out though. I was thinking about saying this before and didn't because I didn't want to stir things too much and Stephen Loftus came in and expressed a lot of what I was thinking, but if you didn't realize Cortana's hologram was a naked woman before (not in a bodysuit, naked), you were seeing what you wanted to see, or maybe more like what you wanted others to see. : For someone's who's been immersed in Halo since its birth, I get the : character, and love the concept behind the Smart AI choosing their : appearance. But for someone who's never been exposed, that's a very bold : visual. In a sense you could say the issue goes beyond just the moral : perspective on 'violence', and now comes more blatantly at the 'sexuality' : perspective as well. Only in the most benign way, which is to say, that males and females, particularly their bodies, are different. Nothing about Cortana's appearance or personality or dialog* presents as anything more. : One or both of those may be non-issues to many people. To others, they are. : It's just harder to be a raving fan of Halo without feeling like I could : offend other friends by directing their attention to the game, or coming : off as if I condone something that they consider offensive. I don't like : offending people :( If you like something your friends think is offensive, IDK why you'd be friends with them. : Anyway, the point remains, Halo is rated M. So... really, it is a personal : matter of how and to whom you decide to rave about it. I guess it was just : easier for parents to write off the 'fantasy violence' and let their youth : play it - but Cortana's popping out more and more (twss) beyond that : subject, and raising the bar (twss) of sexual content. You're right, that's how our culture is. No culture of more than a few people is monolithic or unchanging though, and logic has a role to play in culture (that is, it's valid and sometimes valuable to ask, "Does this aspect of our culture make sense?"). : (PS as for the violence, I'd certainly be far more hesitant to rave to my : general audience about say COD than Halo, due to the nature of violence; : for me, fantasy violence is far more acceptable than real-world, or : human/human violence in video games... but that's just my preference. I'm : not an advocate of violence, as a whole, by any means) I wonder how this would change if we actually discovered another sentient species. A side note: everyone should check out the South Park episode "Good Times with Weapons". Seriously, not just the people in this thread, not just HBO, everyone. It might not seem relevant until the last few seconds but it is massively relevant. * the way she laughed during the line "insert me into the defense grid" (Composer) might indicate she thought it was funny because of innuendo and was possibly using innuendo on purpose, but it's iffy, and it's the only thing that comes to mind that's remotely suggestive like that

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Message Index

My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/21/13 1:05 p.m.
Re: Door Trouble	SonGoharotto	2/21/13 2:05 p.m.
Re: Door Trouble	Rockslider	2/21/13 2:29 p.m.
Re: Door Trouble	Def Guru 7777	2/21/13 5:09 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Kermit	2/21/13 9:48 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	SonGoharotto	2/21/13 10:10 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Def Guru 7777	2/22/13 2:34 a.m.
Disposable Entertainment after all	Cody Miller	2/22/13 2:00 a.m.
Re: Disposable Entertainment after all	Rockslider	2/22/13 4:23 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Mirel	2/22/13 6:00 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/22/13 1:09 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Quirel	2/22/13 2:13 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	uberfoop	2/22/13 2:28 p.m.
She had a navel in H1	Rockslider	2/22/13 7:30 p.m.
Re: She had a navel in H1	Kermit	2/22/13 7:36 p.m.
Re: She had a navel in H1	RC Master	2/22/13 9:21 p.m.
Re: She had a navel in H1	Quirel	2/23/13 5:30 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/23/13 10:07 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/22/13 3:58 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/23/13 11:10 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/23/13 12:02 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	scarab	2/24/13 5:35 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/24/13 6:37 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	scarab	2/24/13 11:41 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/24/13 12:24 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/24/13 3:43 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	thebruce0	2/25/13 10:04 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/25/13 10:55 a.m.
Down the rabbit hole...	Arithmomaniac	2/25/13 2:20 p.m.
Re: Down the rabbit hole...	General Vagueness	2/25/13 5:34 p.m.
Re: Down the rabbit hole...	Arithmomaniac	2/26/13 2:58 a.m.
Re: Down the rabbit hole...	General Vagueness	2/25/13 5:36 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	thebruce0	2/26/13 9:41 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/26/13 3:37 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	thebruce0	2/26/13 7:51 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Kermit	2/26/13 8:37 p.m.
I didn't say that	Rockslider	2/27/13 6:29 a.m.
Re: I didn't say that	Kermit	2/27/13 2:33 p.m.
Re: I didn't say that	Kermit	2/27/13 10:17 p.m.
Re: I didn't say that	Rockslider	2/28/13 2:19 p.m.
Re: I didn't say that	Kermit	3/1/13 6:24 p.m.
Nicely done!	Rockslider	2/27/13 6:49 a.m.
Re: Nicely done!	thebruce0	2/27/13 8:27 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/28/13 4:45 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	thebruce0	3/1/13 9:43 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	3/1/13 4:16 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	thebruce0	3/1/13 5:37 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Cody Miller	2/27/13 12:02 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/27/13 5:35 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Bry	2/27/13 7:02 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/28/13 5:08 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Cody Miller	2/27/13 6:58 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/27/13 7:06 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	DEEP NNN	2/27/13 11:01 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Quirel	2/28/13 12:20 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	DEEP NNN	2/28/13 7:41 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/28/13 5:20 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Quirel	2/28/13 11:55 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	3/1/13 3:53 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Kermit	3/1/13 6:56 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Cody Miller	3/1/13 1:34 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	RC Master	2/27/13 7:48 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/28/13 5:11 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	scarab	2/28/13 5:54 a.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/28/13 5:25 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/24/13 2:56 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/24/13 3:33 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	General Vagueness	2/24/13 4:05 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/24/13 4:27 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	uberfoop	2/23/13 12:40 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/23/13 1:28 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Gravemind	2/22/13 2:43 p.m.
Re: My thoughts on Halo 4	Rockslider	2/22/13 4:20 p.m.