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Re: My thoughts on Halo 4
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>Date: 2/28/13 4:45 p.m.

In Response To: Re: My thoughts on Halo 4 (thebruce0)


: Lust.

Seeing a naked person doesn't necessarily have much or even anything to do with that.

: There's a difference between implication and blatant visual imagery. Yes it
: was clear she was intending to present herself as a female figure without
: adornment, apart from the nature of her existence - holographic digital
: lines and bits of data. And her initial depiction was visually undeniably
: different than how realistic she's being depicted now (and it's not just
: due to an improved graphics engine). Surely you can grasp that
: difference... =/

: YMMV. As I said, it depends both on culture and the person viewing said
: media. In western culture and particularly the circles I people I often
: associate with, her display is extremely sexualized. Unnecessarily so.
: Before, she was a holographic feminine figure. Now she's an anatomically
: accurate naked woman who even appears as if she has substance, not just
: formed of..whatever she was formed of in HCE =P

: o_O

: Seriously?
: Whether it's camera angles, or shading, or level of detail, or innuendo, or
: just the fact that she's, you know, not wearing clothes , there is very
: much about her that's presented in a sexualized fashion, in context of our
: culture. Far more-so than if her shape were slightly less 'detailed'

I think there's a difference in understanding here.
sexuality:
The condition of being characterized and distinguished by sex.
sexual character; possession of the structural and functional traits of sex
the quality or state of being sexual: --> sexual: of, relating to, or associated with sex or the sexes
where "sex" is used as in another thread, talking about how most people are one or the other (male or female) and traits relating that fact and the differences between male and female
The point there being that the appearance naked person, or a picture or accurate representation of one, is by definition natural, and see one is a neutral thing.

: And that is the ongoing discussion in western culture.
: And no, from my position, if it's not already clear, the growing realism of
: Cortana's nudity doesn't make sense given the character I've grown to know
: and love, and given the type of video game in which she's a character.

I could tell that. I don't know if you could tell I was saying it makes sense to ask how relevant things like this... standard, I guess... still are, if at all. (I think this is relevant as far as the protection clothes provide, but otherwise has very little bearing on anything.)
I'm curious what your opinion on swear words is.

: Here's a quick image I brushed up from one common image I grabbed, making a
: few minor adjustments and such, just to show how a few small changes and
: can make a big different, while still retaining her classic Cortana
: presence, but without what many may consider unnecessary attention to
: realistic detail.
: And as usual, YMMV (you do know what that means, right? and that there's a
: reason I put them in my comments in the places I do =P)

: That is still Cortana.
: And a less blatantly naked attractive woman. =P

I had to look for a few minutes to figure out what you changed (which says to me that the differences aren't significant). It looks like you softened the shadows from her boobs and softened and blurred the edges, got rid of her bellybutton, and made that little neck notch thing less pronounced. Overall it looks like you tried to make her look more like she's wearing some kind of catsuit (which I maintain is not an interpretation that really reflects how she looked in the first place).

You cannot fall off the floor.



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