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Posted By: bryan newman <kodiak4208@hotmail.com>	Date: 4/23/12 6:55 p.m.
In Response To: My take on the new Grunt design (demoncarnotaur) : So, I don't post here very often, and admitably have trouble navigating the : forums (despite reading them regularly) so forgive me if this has been : already covered.. But I figured this may be worth posting to generate some : discussion (I also posted this on neogaf for those who post there) : Anyways.. As late as it may be, here is my opinion on the issue of the Grunt : redesign- : Pros : -Lack of fully covered face is OK, they clearly are still receiving methane. : -Overall, the new art is fantastic and I love the new face : -likely looks amazing in motion : -did I mention the art over all is fantastic? : Cons : -Grunts are Arthropods, it is stated in the Halo Encyclopedia and Halo the : essential visual guide. As such, the fleshy hands and feet really do not : make sense. : -Hands and feet now look more generic : -Feet now have a drastically different structure that ignore every previous : Halo game. (Past games have had three front facing ‘digits/stumps’ with : one on the back. halo 4 now has four forward facing toes) : -Overall profile/silhouette of the arms and legs are much more simple and : uninspired : While overall I enjoy the new art direction, I do not like the huge changes : to the grunt anatomy, namely the feet changing from stumpy appendages to a : very recognizable fleshy foot with toes. (Interestingly enough, they seem : to be influenced strongly by the Halo Wars grunt which you can see in the : picture below) Grunts are established as arthropods, so not only does this : change ignore what the past games established via art, it also ignore the : physiology of a Grunt should be. : On top of the reason why the changes to the hands/feet don’t make sense : canonically, they also happen to make the grunt look more like a generic : monster rather than a unique alien species. Once again, the face and body : are fine, as they stay close enough to what is established by previous : games while making it their own, and in a fantastic way IMO. : Pictures to emphasize points above: http://i.imgur.com/odBQG.jpg : (at the very least the Halo Wars grunt tried to stay true to the digits on : the feet despite turning them to toes) : and : http://i.imgur.com/eOCwJ.jpg It is a different race of unngoy? I remember when they first showed skirmishers and people complained but bungie came up with a reasonable excuse for the differences in physical appearance. And does anybody else remember the drastic redesign done to Jackals from H:CE to H2? I like to use the excuse that there are perhaps dozens of different tribes or races of Brutes, Jackals, Elites, Grunts etc. That all have different physical characteristics and we see a different one each game. Think about it. Humans have different color skin/hair. Dogs although the same species are drastically different from one another. And I am ready to bet that the first time you saw a zebra and a regular horse side by side you shat bricks.

Message Index

My take on the new Grunt design	demoncarnotaur	4/23/12 6:32 p.m.
maybe...	bryan newman	4/23/12 6:55 p.m.
Different races/breeds...	Sl'askia	4/23/12 7:02 p.m.
Re: Different races/breeds...	demoncarnotaur	4/23/12 10:59 p.m.
It looks very generic	scarab	4/24/12 2:08 p.m.
Re: It looks very generic	demoncarnotaur	4/24/12 2:26 p.m.
Re: My take on the new Grunt design	VAVA Mk2	4/23/12 8:16 p.m.
Re: My take on the new Grunt design	Louis Wu	4/23/12 9:26 p.m.
Re: My take on the new Grunt design	SEspider	4/23/12 11:42 p.m.
Re: My take on the new Grunt design	Louis Wu	4/24/12 8:55 a.m.
Re: My take on the new Grunt design	SEspider	4/24/12 11:21 a.m.
Re: My take on the new Grunt design	demoncarnotaur	4/24/12 10:44 a.m.
As do we all....	SEspider	4/24/12 11:28 a.m.