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Re: You know...
Posted By: Kermit <kermi7@mac.com>Date: 10/31/10 10:30 p.m.

In Response To: You know... (FugitiveSoldier)


: I like how this has been asked several times but never really answered by
: those attacking kornman.

: Thanks for the hints, kornman; sorry you had to put up with the flames for
: trying to share something you thought was helpful.

: I like lurking this forum to stay on top of things, but this kind of
: mudslinging is what keeps me away from wanting to contribute/post much.

For the record, I don't think I've slung any mud. The worst I accused kornman of was selfishness, but I'll amend that to say he had good intentions. With special skills come special responsibilities, though, and I suggested several alternatives (as did Wu) that would've allowed those without his special skills (i.e., most of us) to have the opportunity to participate. I'm not saying he deserved to be attacked, and that puts me off, too, frankly, but I care about this community and think it would've been better for this community had we not had our collaboration nipped in the bud so quickly.

No one knows how it would have turned out. Someone could have and probably would have figured it out fairly quickly, but I think it would probably would have gone more like this:

Someone finds the switch, so then we all try to figure out what happens after you flip the switch.

Someone with a damaged falcon flies through the circle, gets the pelican, then we all try that, and it doesn't always work, and then someone figures out it has to be damaged.

At some point someone tries flying a banshee and gets the phantom.

See how different people could have discovered different layers of this? I don't doubt that this is what the developer intended and what Bungie intended carries weight for me.

I also don't buy the notion of "saved time." It's a fun game, and time invested is not time wasted, and in the process of looking for this, who knows what else we may have uncovered. I started looking after I read the BWU and had a great time messing around trying to figure it out.

While it lasted, the egg mystery, like the challenges and (sometimes) rank, served as an impetus for me to do things in the game I might not do otherwise, and even though I wasn't successful on my own (and didn't expect to be), I should be allowed to express my disappointment that it was cut short by kornman's introduction of deux ex machina, impressive though his work may have been from a certain perspective.

If I've been unfair to kornman, then I'm sorry for that. My hope is that this has been a productive conversation, and we've all learned from it.


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Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?kornman00 10/30/10 3:29 p.m.
     Can't wait to see someone's success video! *NM*thebruce0 10/30/10 3:33 p.m.
     MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERELouis Wu 10/30/10 3:38 p.m.
           Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECaptain Spark 10/30/10 3:44 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREBry 10/30/10 3:51 p.m.
                 Best easter egg ever ruined...WhoLikesChicken 10/30/10 3:52 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...Captain Spark 10/30/10 4:00 p.m.
                             Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...WhoLikesChicken 10/30/10 4:05 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...Dojorkan 10/30/10 4:48 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...DHalo 10/30/10 5:17 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...ArteenEsben 10/30/10 5:20 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 3:55 p.m.
                       Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECaptain Spark 10/30/10 4:11 p.m.
                             Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 4:20 p.m.
                                   Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECaptain Spark 10/30/10 4:32 p.m.
                                         Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREBry 10/30/10 4:57 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECrab 10/30/10 11:08 p.m.
           Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 3:52 p.m.
                 ^^^^^THIS^^^^^ *NM*munky-058 10/30/10 3:55 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREmnemesis 10/30/10 4:10 p.m.
                       Probably glitch related spoilerZackDark 10/30/10 4:25 p.m.
                 Well...Ghost Faction 10/31/10 1:48 a.m.
           MAJOR JERKS IN HEREGhaleonEB 10/30/10 5:20 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR JERKS IN HEREDHalo 10/30/10 5:26 p.m.
                       Its a hunt if you don't read HBO for answers. :P *NM*hyokin 10/30/10 5:32 p.m.
     two questions before I try this...RyanTheHeretic 10/30/10 3:39 p.m.
           Actually, there are no Rally Points, scratch that! *NM*RyanTheHeretic 10/30/10 3:43 p.m.
     Re: "Spoiling"kornman00 10/30/10 4:46 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 4:55 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"The Alpha ELite 10/30/10 5:02 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Decommissioner 10/30/10 5:05 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"GodlyPerfection 10/30/10 5:55 p.m.
                 Re: "Spoiling"kornman00 10/30/10 7:26 p.m.
                       Re: "Spoiling"Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 8:16 p.m.
                       Re: "Spoiling"General Vagueness 10/31/10 4:10 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Avateur 10/30/10 6:11 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Dojorkan 10/30/10 6:32 p.m.
                 Re: "Spoiling" *img*Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:39 p.m.
                       ^Oh, yeah, spoiler.Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:40 p.m.
                       Re: "Spoiling" *img*Jak Redlevske 10/30/10 6:48 p.m.
                             Re: "Spoiling" *img*mala420 10/30/10 6:49 p.m.
                                   Re: "Spoiling" *img*Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:52 p.m.
                                         Re: "Spoiling" *img*mala420 10/30/10 6:54 p.m.
                                               Re: "Spoiling" *img*Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:56 p.m.
     Great info! *NM*ArteenEsben 10/30/10 5:09 p.m.
           Re: Great info!ArteenEsben 10/30/10 5:33 p.m.
     *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantomkornman00 10/30/10 6:56 p.m.
           Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoUrk 10/30/10 6:58 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantomala420 10/30/10 7:01 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 7:03 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoBry 10/30/10 7:10 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 7:18 p.m.
                 I humbly disagree *NM*ArteenEsben 10/30/10 7:43 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantokornman00 10/30/10 8:57 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDecommissioner 10/30/10 9:09 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDevin Olsen 10/30/10 10:14 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDecommissioner 10/30/10 10:35 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantokornman00 10/30/10 10:56 p.m.
                                   Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoCrab 10/31/10 8:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Nah *IMG*Devin Olsen 10/31/10 9:40 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoMiguel Chavez 10/31/10 11:34 a.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoArteenEsben 10/31/10 11:50 a.m.
                 I understand your position, but disagreeAvateur 10/30/10 9:51 p.m.
                 lol u mad *NM*NartFOpc 10/30/10 10:49 p.m.
                 Urk...IceEagle85 10/30/10 10:59 p.m.
           Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoBry 10/30/10 7:37 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoJak Redlevske 10/30/10 7:40 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoJak Redlevske 10/30/10 8:00 p.m.
           Thanks... Its awesome! *NM*The Alpha ELite 10/30/10 8:06 p.m.
           Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoZackDark 10/30/10 9:10 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 9:16 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoZackDark 10/30/10 9:23 p.m.
                             Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for Funsharpsniper99 10/30/10 9:26 p.m.
                                   Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for FunPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 9:34 p.m.
                                         Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for Funsharpsniper99 10/30/10 9:43 p.m.
                                               Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for FunPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 10:05 p.m.
                                   Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for FunDecommissioner 10/30/10 9:36 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoArteenEsben 10/30/10 9:28 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDojorkan 10/30/10 10:25 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoFyreWulff 10/30/10 11:44 p.m.
           *Spoiler* Easy way in singleplayerDecommissioner 10/30/10 10:43 p.m.
     Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?FyreWulff 10/30/10 7:52 p.m.
           Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Decommissioner 10/30/10 7:57 p.m.
                 Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?FyreWulff 10/30/10 8:03 p.m.
                       Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Bry 10/30/10 8:13 p.m.
                       Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Decommissioner 10/30/10 8:14 p.m.
           Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?ArteenEsben 10/30/10 8:07 p.m.
                 Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?FyreWulff 10/30/10 8:10 p.m.
                       Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 8:22 p.m.
     Shame on you, HBO *NM*cagerrin 10/30/10 8:07 p.m.
           What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side) *NM*GrimBrother One 10/30/10 8:14 p.m.
                 I think he's disappointed in True Blood s3Beckx 10/30/10 8:24 p.m.
                       Re: I think he's disappointed in True Blood s3cagerrin 10/30/10 8:38 p.m.
                             Re: Don't throw a sticky at the funny. :( *NM*Beckx 10/30/10 8:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Don't throw a sticky at the funny. :(cagerrin 10/30/10 8:55 p.m.
                 Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)cagerrin 10/30/10 8:26 p.m.
                       Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Crab 10/30/10 8:56 p.m.
                             Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)hyokin 10/30/10 9:07 p.m.
                                   Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Schooly D 10/30/10 9:50 p.m.
                                         Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)bluerunner 10/30/10 10:02 p.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)p0lar_bear 10/30/10 10:08 p.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)vlad3163 10/31/10 5:22 a.m.
                                                     Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)bluerunner 10/31/10 12:35 p.m.
                                         Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)p0lar_bear 10/30/10 10:02 p.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 10:09 p.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)bluerunner 10/30/10 10:09 p.m.
                                                     Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)p0lar_bear 10/30/10 10:10 p.m.
                                                           Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)bluerunner 10/30/10 10:22 p.m.
                                                                 Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)mnemesis 10/31/10 5:09 a.m.
                                                                       Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)ArteenEsben 10/31/10 9:33 a.m.
                                                                       Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Pkmnrulz240 10/31/10 9:33 a.m.
                                                     Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)ArteenEsben 10/30/10 10:19 p.m.
                                                           From Halloween Miracle to Halloween Scandal?!PyroSporker16 10/31/10 3:25 a.m.
                                                                 Re: From Halloween Miracle to Halloween Scandal?!Limited 10/31/10 11:29 a.m.
                                                                 Re: From Halloween Miracle to Halloween Scandal?!p0lar_bear 10/31/10 11:58 a.m.
                                         Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Bry 10/30/10 10:25 p.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)mnemesis 10/31/10 5:14 a.m.
                                                     Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Captain Spark 10/31/10 7:46 a.m.
                                                           Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Bry 10/31/10 8:47 a.m.
                                                           Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Pkmnrulz240 10/31/10 9:27 a.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Decommissioner 10/31/10 11:16 a.m.
                       I don't get it, either.Jordan117 10/31/10 4:04 a.m.
     Personally...cheapLEY 10/31/10 12:50 a.m.
           Re: Opinion (long rant)The Alpha ELite 10/31/10 9:51 a.m.
                 Re: Opinion (long rant)Louis Wu 10/31/10 10:22 a.m.
                 Re: Opinion (long rant)Bry 10/31/10 10:35 a.m.
                       Re: Opinion (long rant)Bry 10/31/10 10:52 a.m.
     Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?ZaneZavin 10/31/10 1:20 a.m.
     Now we just need to find a flyable Spirit. *NM*Dojorkan 10/31/10 1:38 a.m.
           and seraph *NM*Decommissioner 10/31/10 11:36 a.m.
     The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardKermit 10/31/10 9:44 a.m.
           Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 9:59 a.m.
                 Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 10:28 a.m.
                       Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 11:47 a.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 11:53 a.m.
                                   Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 12:08 p.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 12:06 p.m.
                                   Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 12:19 p.m.
                                         Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 12:32 p.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardKermit 10/31/10 12:46 p.m.
                                   Lettuce be reality hereIbeechu 10/31/10 5:36 p.m.
                                         You know...FugitiveSoldier 10/31/10 8:55 p.m.
                                               Re: You know...Kermit 10/31/10 10:30 p.m.
           Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardFyreWulff 10/31/10 10:13 a.m.
                 Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardQuirel 10/31/10 11:18 p.m.
                       Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardDHalo 10/31/10 11:25 p.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardQuirel 10/31/10 11:28 p.m.
                                   Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardFyreWulff 10/31/10 11:44 p.m.
           Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardZackDark 10/31/10 11:29 a.m.
     I would like to apologize.Louis Wu 10/31/10 10:19 a.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.serpx 10/31/10 10:40 a.m.
                 Re: I would like to apologize.pete_the_duck 10/31/10 11:28 a.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.ZackDark 10/31/10 11:35 a.m.
                 Re: I would like to apologize.DHalo 10/31/10 11:50 a.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.The Alpha ELite 10/31/10 12:38 p.m.
           HBO: More drama than HBO ;) *NM*Raulboy 10/31/10 9:37 p.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.Quirel 10/31/10 11:21 p.m.



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