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Re: Boss candidates
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 9/20/06 12:12 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Boss candidates (UrsusArctos)

: But the Chief stole the index, goddamn it! Doesn't he say, "If you
: aren't willing, I will find another. But I must have the index!"

The only bit of this that is relevant is "if you are not willing, I will find another."

In other words, the judgment of an individual Reclaimer means nothing. If one refuses, he finds another. That, at minimum, is true.

Beyond that, Keyes is obviously being coerced, and Spark only issues a warning that she is fragile-- not that she needs to be a willing participant, or that they should find another, or that the ring doesn't need to be fired. Just that she's delicate, unlike other Reclaimers.

Either he's being sexist or just remarking that Keyes doesn't have mjolnir armor.

[snip]

: Then Cortana steals the index and Master Chief helps her, doing a total 180
: on Guilty Spark. Not only is he angry and confused, the index is in the
: hands of a clearly hostile construct . That's what sets him against the
: Chief.

Again, it only underlies the essential point: reclaimers are not allowed to dispute the monitor's decision to activate the system. What would be the point of a single reclaimer eschewing the duty if another simply steps into his or her place?

: But Miranda has the index now, and there isn't AI belonging where it
: shouldn't be to steal it. And it's Delta Halo too. Situation safe.

No, there's Tartarus in possession of the Index prior. Is he supposed to have it? 343GS didn't even allow the Master Chief to carry it because he was prone to infection. Although we never see infected Brutes, I'm unaware of them being immune. Why doesn't GS mention that?

I think it's lack of interest again. Delta isn't his responsibility. However, I do not believe that the actual acquiesence of a Reclaimer is required. It may be preferable, but it is not required-- at least not by the monitor.

It is speculation, but something tells me that if the Chief was really the last human alive on the ring, GS would have attempted to force him to activate, knowing that a Reclaimer is required and no others were available.

I think it is right to question the wisdom of how such a system is arranged, but it's hardly the only remaining question in that area.

Happy Talk Like A Pirate Day!



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                                                     Re: Boss fightsCaptain Spark 9/19/06 9:47 a.m.
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                                                           Re: Boss fightsMister Froggy 9/19/06 7:35 p.m.
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                                         Re: Boss fightsNarcogen 9/19/06 7:25 a.m.
                                               Re: Boss fightsSimpsons Rule 9/19/06 7:43 a.m.
                                                     Re: Boss fightsSep7imus [subnova] 9/19/06 7:57 a.m.
                                                           Re: Boss fightsJillybean 9/19/06 8:17 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Boss fightsLouis Wu 9/19/06 8:43 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Boss fightsNarcogen 9/19/06 9:23 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Boss fightsLouis Wu 9/19/06 9:24 a.m.
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                                                                                   Re: Boss fightsNarcogen 9/19/06 9:33 a.m.
                                                     Boss candidatesNarcogen 9/19/06 8:37 a.m.
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                                                                 Re: Boss candidatesLouis Wu 9/19/06 9:08 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Boss candidatesUrsusArctos 9/19/06 9:44 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Boss candidatesNarcogen 9/19/06 9:32 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Boss candidatesMister Froggy 9/19/06 9:44 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Boss candidatesUrsusArctos 9/19/06 9:48 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Boss candidatesLouis Wu 9/19/06 10:15 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Boss candidatesUrsusArctos 9/19/06 10:24 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Boss candidatesCount Zero 9/19/06 12:49 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Boss candidatesWado SG 9/19/06 1:05 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Boss candidatesscarab 9/19/06 2:18 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Boss candidatesscarab 9/19/06 2:40 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Boss candidatesPeptuck 9/20/06 3:32 a.m.
                                                                                                                 intentional or not?scarab 9/20/06 7:47 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: intentional or not?Peptuck 9/20/06 10:16 a.m.
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                                                                                         Re: Boss candidatesNarcogen 9/19/06 10:14 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Boss candidatesNarcogen 9/19/06 9:30 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Boss candidatesUrsusArctos 9/19/06 11:32 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Boss candidatesNarcogen 9/20/06 12:12 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Boss candidatesPeptuck 9/20/06 3:43 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Boss candidatesDocument 9/19/06 11:42 p.m.
                                                                       How is 343 GS tortured?Jillybean 9/19/06 3:03 p.m.
                                                                             He has that damn song running through his domeGryphonosiris 9/19/06 3:14 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: He has that damn song running through his domeAce Heart 9/19/06 4:10 p.m.
                                                                             Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/19/06 5:18 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: How is 343 GS tortured?CowOnTheNews 9/19/06 5:22 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/19/06 5:43 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Jillybean 9/19/06 6:25 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Bry 9/19/06 6:51 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Endbringer 9/19/06 6:57 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Ace Heart 9/19/06 7:41 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Omega 9/19/06 11:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Bry 9/19/06 11:46 p.m.
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                                                                                                     Clarity and graceNarcogen 9/19/06 10:32 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Clarity and graceJillybean 9/20/06 4:56 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Clarity and graceNarcogen 9/20/06 7:34 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: Clarity and graceBry 9/20/06 8:59 a.m.
                                                                                                                             ^ HGN spoilers *NM*Document 9/20/06 12:04 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Bry 9/19/06 5:53 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/19/06 6:08 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Ace Heart 9/19/06 6:13 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: How is 343 GS tortured?Bry 9/19/06 6:14 p.m.
                                                                             Torture wasn't necessaryNarcogen 9/19/06 10:28 p.m.
                                                                                   Sparky can't lie or withold?scarab 9/20/06 1:17 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Sparky can't lie or withold?scarab 9/20/06 1:36 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Torture wasn't necessaryJillybean 9/20/06 4:58 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Torture wasn't necessaryNarcogen 9/20/06 8:02 a.m.
                                                                                               Still out to get me *NM*Jillybean 9/20/06 1:18 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Torture wasn't necessaryAce Heart 9/20/06 8:54 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Torture wasn't necessaryAce Heart 9/20/06 9:20 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Torture wasn't necessaryStephen L. (SoundEffect) 9/20/06 6:08 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Torture wasn't necessaryAce Heart 9/20/06 6:32 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Boss candidatesPeptuck 9/19/06 11:59 a.m.
                                                           Guilty SparkMiguel Chavez 9/19/06 9:29 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Guilty SparkNarcogen 9/19/06 9:35 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Guilty Sparkscarab 9/20/06 1:21 a.m.
                                               Re: Boss fightsUrsusArctos 9/19/06 8:51 a.m.
                                                     Re: Boss fightsLouis Wu 9/19/06 8:57 a.m.
                                                           Re: Boss fightsUrsusArctos 9/19/06 9:11 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Boss fightsLouis Wu 9/19/06 9:17 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Boss fightsNarcogen 9/19/06 9:37 a.m.
                                                                 Definetly in the Christmasy time of year.Endbringer 9/19/06 4:09 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Definetly in the Christmasy time of year.Document 9/19/06 11:32 p.m.
                                                           what?hminn 9/19/06 6:30 p.m.
                                                                 Re: what?Louis Wu 9/20/06 6:09 a.m.
           Re: LOL at the articlePeptuck 9/18/06 10:19 p.m.
                 Re: LOL at the articleLouis Wu 9/18/06 11:12 p.m.
                 Re: LOL at the articleDocument 9/20/06 12:17 p.m.
                       Re: LOL at the articleNarcogen 9/20/06 11:46 p.m.
           Re: LOL at the articleNarcogen 9/18/06 10:19 p.m.
           Re: LOL at the articleSlith 9/20/06 12:39 a.m.
     Re: LOL at the articleIbeechu 9/18/06 8:36 p.m.
           Re: LOL at the articleSpartan Jag 9/18/06 9:27 p.m.
           Re: LOL at the articleSlith 9/20/06 1:35 a.m.
     Re: LOL at the articleKiloh Ekim 9/18/06 8:55 p.m.
     Re: LOL at the articlePeptuck 9/18/06 10:11 p.m.
     About boss battles...Mister Froggy 9/18/06 10:23 p.m.
           Re: About boss battles...Peptuck 9/18/06 11:01 p.m.
                 Re: About boss battles...Narcogen 9/19/06 1:17 a.m.
                       Re: About boss battles...xenøs 9/19/06 5:04 a.m.
                             Re: About boss battles...Narcogen 9/19/06 6:02 a.m.
                 Re: About boss battles...Slith 9/20/06 1:39 a.m.
                       Re: About boss battles...Document 9/20/06 12:24 p.m.
     To quote the ending credits:jdogmoney 9/18/06 11:40 p.m.
           Re: To quote the ending credits:owlalf 9/19/06 12:17 a.m.
                 Re: To quote the ending credits:Document 9/19/06 12:25 a.m.
                       Re: To quote the ending credits:Narcogen 9/19/06 3:50 a.m.
                       Re: To quote the ending credits:Document 9/19/06 11:19 a.m.
           Re: To quote the ending credits:Slith 9/20/06 1:40 a.m.
                 Re: To quote the ending credits:Peptuck 9/20/06 3:13 a.m.
                       Re: To quote the ending credits:Slith 9/20/06 8:27 a.m.
                             Re: To quote the ending credits:AT-GNaT 9/20/06 10:37 a.m.



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