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Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net> | Date: 9/19/06 3:17 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: Boss fights (Miguel Chavez) : I agree pretty much with everything you say... and in terms of the bigger
Yes, I'm not really sure where that idea came from. I don't know if a group sat down and somebody outright suggested "let's have boss battles" or if they were just trying to punctuate the double-levels with a "special" encounter. Of course, that just reminds me of Salieri's criticism of Mozart in Amadeus: "You know, you didn't even give them a nice bang at the end of songs-- to let them know when to clap?" I suppose perhaps someone felt that emotionally H1 was missing something without any bosses-- because there aren't any. None. Nothing comes close. There are encounters large and small, but they don't follow a progression. The last thing you fight in any given level is not, necessarily, the hardest one. In fact, levels seem to be treated as sort of miniature dramas all their own, with an act structure. Some begin or end in medias res, some have a climax that comes midway through and there's a gentle tapering-off. That works really well in some places. Think of the final pulse generator in Two Betrayals. After the gauntlet that the second one was-- about half a dozen rocket Flood, some before you trigger it, and some after-- you're steeled for anything when you go in there. But there's just a few sentinels. After you trigger it... nothing happens, just the cutscene. If one saw that as a detriment, then perhaps those people wanted some kind of a boss encounter-- something where you fight 343GS. If one saw that as a skilfull misdirection, then the way H1 works probably feels better.
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LOL at the article | WortWortWort | 9/18/06 8:23 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Hawaiian Pig | 9/18/06 8:28 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Unsc Trafalgar | 9/18/06 8:33 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | CowOnTheNews | 9/18/06 8:38 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 12:56 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 1:13 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Cocopjojo | 9/20/06 1:21 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 1:52 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 2:10 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 2:53 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:13 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Saint | 9/18/06 8:41 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | CowOnTheNews | 9/18/06 8:49 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | masterskill | 9/18/06 8:57 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 1:07 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 2:28 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 2:31 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 2:33 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 2:45 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 2:54 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:07 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 8:21 a.m. |
When You Think About it... | Mintz | 9/18/06 9:14 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | Evil Squid | 9/18/06 9:20 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | Unsc Trafalgar | 9/18/06 9:20 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | Echoes | 9/18/06 9:22 p.m. |
Re: When You Think About it... | CowOnTheNews | 9/18/06 9:27 p.m. |
You don't have to punch Regret. | jdogmoney | 9/19/06 10:00 p.m. |
Re: You don't have to punch Regret. | CowOnTheNews | 9/19/06 10:58 p.m. |
Re: You don't have to punch Regret. | jdogmoney | 9/20/06 12:24 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | ShortRoundMcfly | 9/18/06 8:51 p.m. |
Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/18/06 11:05 p.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Miguel Chavez | 9/19/06 1:39 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 3:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Jillybean | 9/19/06 5:05 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 8:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Stuntmutt | 9/19/06 8:39 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 8:55 a.m. |
Just kidding. *NM* | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 8:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Captain Spark | 9/19/06 9:47 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Stuntmutt | 9/19/06 10:13 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Document | 9/19/06 11:11 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Kiloh Ekim | 9/19/06 7:32 p.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Mister Froggy | 9/19/06 7:35 p.m. |
Re: Boss fights | scarab | 9/20/06 1:04 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:35 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:38 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 7:04 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 7:25 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Simpsons Rule | 9/19/06 7:43 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Sep7imus [subnova] | 9/19/06 7:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Jillybean | 9/19/06 8:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 8:43 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:23 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 9:24 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Stuntmutt | 9/19/06 9:29 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:34 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:33 a.m. |
Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 8:37 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Sep7imus [subnova] | 9/19/06 8:48 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:03 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 9:08 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:44 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:32 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Mister Froggy | 9/19/06 9:44 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:48 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 10:15 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 10:24 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Count Zero | 9/19/06 12:49 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Wado SG | 9/19/06 1:05 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | scarab | 9/19/06 2:18 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | scarab | 9/19/06 2:40 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:32 a.m. |
intentional or not? | scarab | 9/20/06 7:47 a.m. |
Re: intentional or not? | Peptuck | 9/20/06 10:16 a.m. |
Re: intentional or not? | scarab | 9/20/06 2:11 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 10:14 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:30 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 11:32 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Narcogen | 9/20/06 12:12 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:43 a.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Document | 9/19/06 11:42 p.m. |
How is 343 GS tortured? | Jillybean | 9/19/06 3:03 p.m. |
He has that damn song running through his dome | Gryphonosiris | 9/19/06 3:14 p.m. |
Re: He has that damn song running through his dome | Ace Heart | 9/19/06 4:10 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/19/06 5:18 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | CowOnTheNews | 9/19/06 5:22 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/19/06 5:43 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Jillybean | 9/19/06 6:25 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 6:51 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Endbringer | 9/19/06 6:57 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Ace Heart | 9/19/06 7:41 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Omega | 9/19/06 11:17 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 11:46 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Omega | 9/19/06 11:59 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Endbringer | 9/19/06 11:59 p.m. |
Clarity and grace | Narcogen | 9/19/06 10:32 p.m. |
Re: Clarity and grace | Jillybean | 9/20/06 4:56 a.m. |
Re: Clarity and grace | Narcogen | 9/20/06 7:34 a.m. |
Re: Clarity and grace | Bry | 9/20/06 8:59 a.m. |
^ HGN spoilers *NM* | Document | 9/20/06 12:04 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 5:53 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/19/06 6:08 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Ace Heart | 9/19/06 6:13 p.m. |
Re: How is 343 GS tortured? | Bry | 9/19/06 6:14 p.m. |
Torture wasn't necessary | Narcogen | 9/19/06 10:28 p.m. |
Sparky can't lie or withold? | scarab | 9/20/06 1:17 a.m. |
Re: Sparky can't lie or withold? | scarab | 9/20/06 1:36 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Jillybean | 9/20/06 4:58 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Narcogen | 9/20/06 8:02 a.m. |
Still out to get me *NM* | Jillybean | 9/20/06 1:18 p.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 8:54 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 9:20 a.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 9/20/06 6:08 p.m. |
Re: Torture wasn't necessary | Ace Heart | 9/20/06 6:32 p.m. |
Re: Boss candidates | Peptuck | 9/19/06 11:59 a.m. |
Guilty Spark | Miguel Chavez | 9/19/06 9:29 a.m. |
Re: Guilty Spark | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:35 a.m. |
Re: Guilty Spark | scarab | 9/20/06 1:21 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 8:51 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 8:57 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | UrsusArctos | 9/19/06 9:11 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Louis Wu | 9/19/06 9:17 a.m. |
Re: Boss fights | Narcogen | 9/19/06 9:37 a.m. |
Definetly in the Christmasy time of year. | Endbringer | 9/19/06 4:09 p.m. |
Re: Definetly in the Christmasy time of year. | Document | 9/19/06 11:32 p.m. |
what? | hminn | 9/19/06 6:30 p.m. |
Re: what? | Louis Wu | 9/20/06 6:09 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/18/06 10:19 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Louis Wu | 9/18/06 11:12 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Document | 9/20/06 12:17 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Narcogen | 9/20/06 11:46 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Narcogen | 9/18/06 10:19 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 12:39 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Ibeechu | 9/18/06 8:36 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Spartan Jag | 9/18/06 9:27 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Slith | 9/20/06 1:35 a.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Kiloh Ekim | 9/18/06 8:55 p.m. |
Re: LOL at the article | Peptuck | 9/18/06 10:11 p.m. |
About boss battles... | Mister Froggy | 9/18/06 10:23 p.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Peptuck | 9/18/06 11:01 p.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Narcogen | 9/19/06 1:17 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | xenøs | 9/19/06 5:04 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Narcogen | 9/19/06 6:02 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Slith | 9/20/06 1:39 a.m. |
Re: About boss battles... | Document | 9/20/06 12:24 p.m. |
To quote the ending credits: | jdogmoney | 9/18/06 11:40 p.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | owlalf | 9/19/06 12:17 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Document | 9/19/06 12:25 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Narcogen | 9/19/06 3:50 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Document | 9/19/06 11:19 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Slith | 9/20/06 1:40 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Peptuck | 9/20/06 3:13 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | Slith | 9/20/06 8:27 a.m. |
Re: To quote the ending credits: | AT-GNaT | 9/20/06 10:37 a.m. |
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