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Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??
Posted By: 58 <gundamx@adelphia.net>Date: 12/30/05 10:57 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's?? (M6D)

: secondly, we are well aware that theyre obital MAC's, however, SMAC is a bit
: easier to say now isnt it?

All I intended by saying that was some people seem to think that the MACs at Earth are normal, not "super".

Anyway, if you take the statistic of Reach--Three hundred-twelve Covenant ships, one hundred twenty Human ships, twenty O-MACs, with over 80% of the Covenant fleet being decimated, which is an incredible statistic when compared to the normal three-to-one ratio required for Humans to do any significant damage to the Covenant--then it would take something like ten thousand ships to take Earth.

Three hundred orbital MACs. Let's say that a third of them can come to bear on a Covenant fleet at once. Now let's say that for every salvo of one hundred O-MACs, 75% of the shots hit. So you have seventy-five Covenant ships dead for every salvo, not even taking into account the two-hundred or so other Human ships in Earthspace. Now realize that the O-MACs can fire once every thirty seconds, you have seventy-five ships dead every thirty seconds, with a much longer range than any Covenant ship, even a Flagship. Now, add the nuclear mines that we're sure to have, the large number of Cruisers, Frigates, and Destroyers, the possibility of Carriers and Super Carriers.

Using the Reach statistic, which was three-to-one Covenant advantage, it would take a fleet aproximately two hundred times the size of the one at Reach to defeat Earth. That's 62400 Covenant ships. The only reason that Regret's fleet managed to get through was that his objective was not to disable or destroy the Fleet or the defences, it was to get to Earth no matter the cost. Sure, he got Earthside, but to no avail: One of fifteen ships made it, and only managed to get one city. The only reason they got the city was because he executed a Slipspace Fold within the gravitational field of the planet. Otherwise, Amber or -117 would have destroyed his ship. A Covenant battlefleet would have the objective of completely destroying the Human Fleet and O-MACs, and would not have the success--if it can be called that--of Regret, because the different objectives require different tactics.

The arrival of the Forerunner ship change the equation: We have no idea as to the firepower of the ship, but if I were guestimating, I would put it equal to two or three UNSC Cruisers. The only reason that the O-MACs haven't shot down the Forerunner ship is that -117 is onboard, although it is entirely possible that the ship could even withstand a round from one of the O-MACs.

The fleet currently engaging Earth would have to be several hundred ships, I think, to be able to last any amount of time, which it obviously has, as we can see from the state of the Cairo and Human Fleet.


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Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??UrsusArctos 12/30/05 12:31 a.m.
     Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Peptuck 12/30/05 12:47 a.m.
     Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Ragashingo 12/30/05 12:50 a.m.
           Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Whisp 12/30/05 1:13 a.m.
                 Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??HaloNater 12/30/05 1:22 a.m.
                 Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Jinno 12/30/05 1:23 a.m.
                       Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??M6D 12/30/05 1:26 a.m.
                             Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??HaloNater 12/30/05 1:30 a.m.
                                   Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??M6D 12/30/05 1:42 a.m.
                             Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??58 12/30/05 9:57 a.m.
                                   Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Hikaru-119 12/30/05 10:02 a.m.
                                         Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??M6D 12/30/05 10:30 a.m.
                                               Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??58 12/30/05 10:57 a.m.
                                                     Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??M6D 12/30/05 12:14 p.m.
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                                                                       Re: Because that would be logical. *NM* *NM*BMac325 1/26/06 12:01 p.m.
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                       Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??PingZing 12/30/05 1:57 a.m.
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                                   Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??M6D 12/30/05 3:53 a.m.
                                   Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Zak Anderson 12/30/05 5:49 p.m.
                       It's delivered by ferrets, of course. *NM*Pvt. Jenkins 12/30/05 9:06 a.m.
                 Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Peronthious 12/30/05 8:23 a.m.
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                 MicroHikaru-119 12/30/05 8:49 a.m.
           Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??moicus 12/30/05 4:00 a.m.
     Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Rumsfeld 1/12/06 2:01 p.m.
           Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??M6D 1/12/06 2:10 p.m.
                 Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Endbringer 1/12/06 3:34 p.m.
                       Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 1/12/06 9:53 p.m.
           Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Peptuck 1/12/06 2:19 p.m.
                 Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Frofalcon 1/12/06 5:01 p.m.
                       Re: Why didn't the Covenant just shoot the MAC's??Peptuck 1/12/06 5:03 p.m.
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