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Re: I am realy dissapointed !!
Posted By: Thorn <thorn@buckyland.com>Date: 11/21/01 10:27 a.m.

In Response To: Re: I am realy dissapointed !! (Louis Wu)

: Sorry, I have no idea what this means. I've never played a console FPS before
: Halo - my experience is limited to PC FPS's. (My last console was an
: Atari, sometime back in the 70's.) I don't know what 'zick zack aiming'
: is... I just know that after a little bit of practice, headshots are
: pretty simple. In fact, if ammo weren't such a problem, I'd never drop my
: sniper rifle...

If you would have been playing goldeneye or turok in comparsion with halflife or any other mouse driven fps, you would know. Anyways, by zick zack aiming, I mean the type of aiming where you aim, just to find out that you turned to far, and then have to turn back, just to find out that you again turned to far. I have nobody seen playing Halo, neither in a store or in the counterless movies aiming different. I do suppose you are by now used to this style of aiming and you don't notice anymore, but be said, there is a difference!

: It slides around like crazy because you don't know what the hell you're
: doing. Watch someone who knows how to use the jeep - you'll find that
: while it fishtails at times, it's pretty damn controllable. I'm currently
: on a level where I have very little ammo, and a pair of hunters and a pair
: of elites to take out. The elites are protected by a stationary gun, the
: hunters aren't. I find that killing the hunters with the warthog is by FAR
: the easiest way to go... then I snipe out the elites. (I'd use the warthog
: on them, too, but all the shooting that happens then brings a banshee
: around... and then when I try to get out of my jeep and into another
: banshee, I get run over.)

I don't blame that it could not be drive, I fact I only got difficulties when the camerea started to rotate around like crazy. You just not get the point.
I does not matter if you take the warthog or a cube and slide it over the ground. My feeling about rubber, tires and grass-rock ground says me that it should not slide as if it where on ice. And indeed that it does. Go play Insane or Redneck offroad or 4x4 evolution to find out what real tire grip is!!

: Bottom line - the jeep manouvers wonderfully, for those who have taken some
: small amount of time to master it.

What I do blame about the steering handling is, that you can never master a vehicle fully if you have no direct control over it's basic steering mechnisms.
I can imagine that after some training the interface does all the steering you need for you, but you will NEVER master your car as if you where turning the wheel(nubble?) yourself.

: Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. The camera rotates that way for you because
: you keep your finger on the directional stick the whole time - it happened
: to me at first, too. Once you get better, you'll start to NOTICE what your
: hands are doing, and the camera won't spin like that.

Point for you, and till now the only true one.

: So... don't jump so much. :)

If you would play flashpoint, wich I do, you would know that I can fairly good handle with not jumping at all.
But still it remains, that you are a floating target if you jump, wich you are not in reality nor in most of the other fps games. If you want to avaid the bunny effect make it like wolfenstein, but not with some lama duckass action.

: (I find jumping useful to get up onto things, or over things. I'm not sure
: why you're jumping randomly during a firefight... unless that's your
: chosen playstyle in other fps's, and you just can't seem to realize that
: it doesn't work well here. If you were on a real battlefield, would you
: start jumping up and down everywhere? (That's a rhetorical question - if
: you don't know the outcome of that sort of activity, I hope you never
: serve in any armed forces.)

: As I said, I haven't seen this sort of behavior. 2-3 meters is about the
: distance from your eyes to the ground - so unless you were UNDER the tank,
: you're probably underestimating the distance.

Open point.

I do not play quake, and I do give a damm lot on story. I would prefer if all FPS out there would have a realy good coop mode.


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I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 6:30 a.m.
     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Brian Dupuis 11/21/01 7:49 a.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 8:19 a.m.
                 Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 8:20 p.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Frost 11/21/01 10:06 a.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!bullseye 11/21/01 2:18 p.m.
     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Louis Wu 11/21/01 8:38 a.m.
           Re: OHHHH own3d *NM*Strider 11/21/01 8:45 a.m.
           Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 8:52 a.m.
                 Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Brian Dupuis 11/21/01 9:14 a.m.
                       Hey, Brian...vector40 11/21/01 8:33 p.m.
                       Spoiler alert on this post and Brian's!Andrew Nagy 11/22/01 5:57 p.m.
                             Where?Louis Wu 11/23/01 8:51 a.m.
                                   Re: Where?Andrew Nagy 11/23/01 2:10 p.m.
                                         Re: Where?Andrew Nagy 11/23/01 2:11 p.m.
                                               Re: Where?vector40 11/23/01 2:28 p.m.
                                         Re: Where?Louis Wu 11/23/01 3:06 p.m.
                                               Re: Where?Andrew Nagy 11/23/01 10:05 p.m.
                                                     Re: Where?vector40 11/24/01 12:02 a.m.
                 Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Thorn 11/21/01 11:02 a.m.
                       Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Louis Wu 11/21/01 11:09 a.m.
                             Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Thorn 11/21/01 11:23 a.m.
                                   Re: hehehe....kayas 11/21/01 11:28 a.m.
                                         Re: hehehe....Thorn 11/21/01 11:35 a.m.
                                               Re: hehehe....Louis Wu 11/21/01 11:38 a.m.
                                               Re: hehehe....The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 10:19 p.m.
                       Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 11:29 a.m.
                             Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Thorn 11/21/01 11:49 a.m.
                                   Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 12:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Got to agree w/ Louis on these...Thorn 11/21/01 12:23 p.m.
                                               Re: Well watch it next time 'cause....Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 1:04 p.m.
           Re: Yeah I think he can't play eitherkayas 11/21/01 9:40 a.m.
                 Re: Yeah I think he can't play eitherThorn 11/21/01 9:54 a.m.
                       Re: Yeah I think he can't play eitherkayas 11/21/01 11:30 a.m.
                             Re: Yeah I think he can't play eitherThorn 11/21/01 11:40 a.m.
                             Re: Yeah I think he can't play eithervector40 11/21/01 8:37 p.m.
                       Re: Yeah I think he can't play eitherThe Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 10:31 p.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 9:48 a.m.
                 Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Louis Wu 11/21/01 10:09 a.m.
                       Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 10:27 a.m.
                             Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 10:45 a.m.
                                   Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 10:53 a.m.
                                         Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 11:09 a.m.
                                               Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Nine Inch Mario 11/21/01 11:26 a.m.
                                                     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Louis Wu 11/21/01 11:36 a.m.
                                                           Good to HearNine Inch Mario 11/21/01 11:45 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Good to Hearvector40 11/21/01 8:45 p.m.
                                                     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 8:44 p.m.
                                               Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 11:28 a.m.
                                                     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 11:33 a.m.
                                                           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!{mAc}Dark_Eagle 11/21/01 2:15 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Good point *NM*Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 2:18 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I am realy dissapointed !!mehve 11/21/01 4:36 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I am realy dissapointed !!The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 11:40 p.m.
                                                     disappointed?mehve 11/21/01 4:25 p.m.
                                                           FlameThrowers and Banshees (SPOLIERS)Jackal 11/23/01 1:50 a.m.
                                                                 Re: FlameThrowers and Banshees (SPOLIERS)mehve 11/26/01 8:07 p.m.
                                                           Re: disappointed?Thorn 11/23/01 10:31 a.m.
                                                                 Re: disappointed?mehve 11/26/01 8:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 10:50 p.m.
                                                           Re: I am realy dissapointed !! *NM*vector40 11/21/01 11:28 p.m.
                                         Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 8:43 p.m.
                             Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 8:41 p.m.
                             Re: I am realy dissapointed !!The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 10:44 p.m.
                       Re: Caution when running over Hunters!!Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 10:57 a.m.
                             Re: Caution when running over Hunters!!Louis Wu 11/21/01 11:03 a.m.
                       Re: I am realy dissapointed !!The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 10:38 p.m.
                             Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Louis Wu 11/22/01 4:17 a.m.
                 Re: To sum up...Lophan 11/21/01 7:05 p.m.
                       lolDoug 11/21/01 7:31 p.m.
                       Re: To sum up...vector40 11/21/01 8:49 p.m.
     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 10:03 a.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Nine Inch Mario 11/21/01 10:24 a.m.
                 Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 10:30 a.m.
                       Re: I am realy dissapointed !!*Ar-Isildur of *WP* 11/21/01 6:32 p.m.
                       Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 8:51 p.m.
                       Re: I am realy dissapointed !!The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 11:12 p.m.
                 Re: I am realy dissapointed !!no7:BLAM 11/21/01 2:55 p.m.
                 Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Dan Rudolph 11/21/01 7:42 p.m.
           Re: Why are you here then?Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 10:50 a.m.
                 Re: Why are you here then?Thorn 11/21/01 10:57 a.m.
                       Re: Why are you here then?Siva (W'rk) 11/21/01 11:21 a.m.
                       Re: Why are you here then?Dan Rudolph 11/21/01 7:47 p.m.
                       Re: Why are you here then?vector40 11/21/01 8:52 p.m.
                 LOLNine Inch Mario 11/21/01 11:07 a.m.
                       Re: LOLLouis Wu 11/21/01 11:13 a.m.
                       Re: LOLSiva (W'rk) 11/21/01 11:14 a.m.
                       Re: LOLvector40 11/21/01 8:54 p.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 8:50 p.m.
                 you mean llama, right?Doug 11/22/01 7:19 p.m.
                       Re: you mean llama, right?vector40 11/23/01 2:25 p.m.
     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 10:11 a.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Thorn 11/21/01 10:45 a.m.
                 You two losers are just pissedTrunks 11/21/01 12:26 p.m.
                       Re: You two losers are just pissedCannibal Harry (vidboi) 11/21/01 12:58 p.m.
                             Re: You two losers are just pissedDan Rudolph 11/21/01 7:53 p.m.
                             Re: You two losers are just pissedvector40 11/21/01 8:57 p.m.
                             Re: You two losers are just pissedTrunks 11/22/01 10:10 a.m.
                                   HaJoey joe joe 11/22/01 11:09 p.m.
                                   Re: You two losers are just pissedCannibal Harry (oldboi) 11/22/01 11:36 p.m.
                                         Re: You two losers are just pissedTrunks 11/24/01 7:18 a.m.
                                   Re: You two losers are just pissedBachus 11/23/01 12:39 a.m.
                       Re: You two losers are just pissedAcheron 11/21/01 2:46 p.m.
                             Re: Mouse, ps2 and thorn =PHead 11/21/01 7:47 p.m.
                       Re: You two losers are just pissedAndrew Nagy 11/22/01 6:07 p.m.
                             Wait a sec...Trunks? Do I know you?Andrew J. Nagy 11/22/01 6:10 p.m.
     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!carrim 11/21/01 2:48 p.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 8:56 p.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 11:26 p.m.
     Lets all feed the troll!no7:BLAM 11/21/01 3:02 p.m.
           Re: Lets all feed the troll!Impact 11/21/01 4:24 p.m.
                 Re: Lets all feed the troll!Doug 11/21/01 4:48 p.m.
           Re: Lets all feed the troll!Andrew Nagy 11/22/01 6:04 p.m.
     Let me fill in a few of Louis' "K"s.vector40 11/21/01 8:32 p.m.
           Re: Let me fill in a few of Louis' "K"s.Andrew Nagy 11/22/01 5:56 p.m.
     Just shut up Thornflood 11/21/01 10:25 p.m.
           Re: Just shut up ThornPanZer 11/21/01 10:44 p.m.
           Re: Just shut up Thornvector40 11/21/01 11:24 p.m.
     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Knight Premier 11/21/01 11:05 p.m.
           Re: I am realy dissapointed !!vector40 11/21/01 11:27 p.m.
                 WHOA!!!!! THIS HAS BECOME A MONSTER TOPIC!!!!!!!!! *NM*The Halo And Sonic Fan 11/21/01 11:44 p.m.
     Re: I am realy dissapointed !!Adam Bomb 11/22/01 2:21 a.m.
     ::Thread mass causes Universe to close::Lucid 11/24/01 1:48 a.m.



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