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Halo : Custom Edtion may help H:CEA *IM Chat*
Posted By: INSANEdriveDate: 6/10/11 4:33 p.m.


Just had a chat with an IM Buddy/Modder and It had some very interesting little "bits" I wanted to share with you all. Yes... I know its a long list, possibly tl;dr, but suck it up, its an IM chat and its rather bite sized. Its all speculative, and yet this speculation is coming off solid info that I haven't seen explored here in any other conversation involving Halo:CEA. This is why I decided to post it here.

But first:

Someone says(4:32 PM)
if you could I'd like you to ask Frankie a question on my behalf
INSANEdrive says(4:34 PM)
Don't expect it to be answered.
Someone says(4:34 PM)
could you ask him [Are] they're using a new revision of 343 guilty spark or if they plan to use previous assets[?] . . . .
INSANEdrive says(4:34 PM)
It's not going to be answered. I can throw it out there though.

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Ok than now that I put that out on Top... here is the rest I would like to show.

Someone says(3:10 PM)
this is actually running on the original engine
but with an updated layer on top of the code
INSANEdrive says(3:10 PM)
I know
Someone says(3:10 PM)
the part you might not have figured
is the xbox version
Someone says(3:11 PM)
doesn't use xex code
still uses the xbe
the xbox 360 uses a emulator
which is why the original games never look quite as good as they do on the original console
INSANEdrive says(3:11 PM)
yes
Someone says(3:11 PM)
but you already knew that
Someone says(3:12 PM)
the part you didn't know though
is anniversary is derived from sawnoses archives
INSANEdrive says(3:12 PM)
O_O
Someone says(3:12 PM)
Not xbox
INSANEdrive says(3:12 PM)
>_>
O_O
. . .
...and this is because?
Someone says(3:12 PM)
updated code
Someone says(3:13 PM)
Custom edition upgraded a few shaders
along with various other optimizations
custom edition came around because Bungie wanted to find a way to allow DLC for halo 2
and since PC modding was rampant
gearbox went ahead
INSANEdrive says(3:14 PM)
Good times.
Someone says(3:14 PM)
that's why CE allows more maps than PC
there's also something else
INSANEdrive says(3:15 PM)
THIS IS WHY...they should have this on PC. I want mod this so bad (the 2nd layer). Some of the effects I know I could make even better if I could get my hands on 'em (Like I did before ;)).
Anywho...what else?
Someone says(3:16 PM)
you could actually have said mod
INSANEdrive says(3:16 PM)
XD

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INSANEdrive says(3:24 PM)
So...does this mean that "classic" halo should look better then the Real Classic Classic?
Someone says(3:24 PM)
Yes
Someone says(3:25 PM)
and run better
more FPS
INSANEdrive says(3:25 PM)
Cool
~~~~~~~~~
INSANEdrive says(3:29 PM)
SWEEEEET.
Someone says(3:29 PM)
oh and there is one other thing
which could be interesting
Someone says(3:30 PM)
considering reaches graphical engine is layered on top of BLAM1
INSANEdrive says(3:30 PM)
yes
Someone says(3:30 PM)
BLAM1 didn't support multicore
reach how ever does
they've taken out the 50CC and slapped a great big V8 in there
INSANEdrive says(3:31 PM)
Very interesting.
Someone says(3:31 PM)
you know how they mentioned reach could do up to 40AI in a encounter?
INSANEdrive says(3:32 PM)
I'm pretty sure they have had up to 40 AI at the end of a game in Firefight. Good times.
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Someone says(3:37 PM)
the motion I'm making is
CE allowed this YEARS ago
INSANEdrive says(3:37 PM)
When pushed.
When we pushed.
Someone says(3:37 PM)
it now has access to a triple core Power PC CPU running at 3.2Ghz
and 512mb DDR3
Someone says(3:38 PM)
as well as a R700GPU running on PCI-E
INSANEdrive says(3:38 PM)
You saying it could be pushed to 80?
Someone says(3:38 PM)
I'm saying it could be pushed further
whether or not it will I don't know

Someone says(3:39 PM)
but I know in PC when the flood were spawned for the first time you would easily get 30 infection spores at a time
INSANEdrive says(3:40 PM)
Back when the flood really was "The Flood". I think that's why they were so awesome when Halo 1 came out, never having seen so much Enemy NPC on one screen.

Someone says(3:40 PM)
precisely
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Someone says(3:42 PM)
the sawtooth came from a conversation I saw some time ago
before halo reach was released actually
do you remember when they announced about using your PC key for reach to get stuff?
INSANEdrive says(3:42 PM)
yes
Someone says(3:43 PM)
well around that time sawnose mentioned that there would be one more update for CE
and then there would be no more
because Microsoft was saying they needed the computer which had the source code
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Someone says(3:45 PM)
sawnose said as a gift he was going to make the update allow the game to run without the CD
along with a final update for security
and then it would be done nothing else to do
and that he would be handing over the computer to Microsoft and 343I
INSANEdrive says(3:46 PM)
and here we are
Someone says(3:46 PM)
he was asked what would happen to the source code
asking if it was possible to release it this late in the game for the community to patch up
Someone says(3:47 PM)
he did ask Microsoft if it was possible and they gave a stern "No" saying they weren't sure whether it might come in use for later
considering this code was extremely old
it would either be used for a remake or to port to pc
in which case for the port they could use H2V's set up for GFWL


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Halo : Custom Edtion may help H:CEA *IM Chat*INSANEdrive 6/10/11 4:33 p.m.
     Re: Halo : Custom Edtion may help H:CEA *IM Chat*Leisandir 6/10/11 4:40 p.m.
           Re: Halo : Custom Edtion may help H:CEA *IM Chat*Frankie 6/10/11 4:42 p.m.
                 What is this... I don't even. O_o *NM*INSANEdrive 6/10/11 4:46 p.m.
                       Re: What is this... I don't even. O_o=sw=warlord 6/10/11 5:16 p.m.
                 Re: Halo : Custom Edtion may help H:CEA *IM Chat*BlueNinja 6/10/11 6:16 p.m.
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