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Re: I don't see why...
Posted By: bovine politicsDate: 4/25/08 3:20 p.m.

In Response To: I don't see why... (stan)


: For one, since when has Halo been about "realism" (real for the
: context in which it's set of course)? Remember, Spartans can survive a
: near direct blast from a grenade, but a point-blank shotgun blast to the
: toe kills them. Doesn't seem very realistic to me.

My point was that a third-person game with ODSTs would probably have to be more realistic, if only for the fact that you are an ordinary Marine in a suit, not a 7 1/2 foot tall genetically modified superhuman trained for combat almost as soon as you could walk with a half ton of armor encasing every square inch of your body.

: And anyways, lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of
: games have been made and played successfully without any Spartans at all.
: And in lots and lots and lots of those, you play as a human fighting
: aliens. I don't see why this would have to be any different. Because we

Fair point, but in most of those games, the main enemies don't have shields that take half a clip to take down, unless you just want to fight Grunts. And Hunters would be really beastly.

Come to think of it, that'd be pretty awesome, seeing hunters as the nearly unstoppable death machines they are supposed to be and not the giant walking targets they are in the "main" games. Halo 1 Hunters, lol.

: know what the covenant can do? Well, maybe their fighting capabilities
: evolved in the thirty (fifty?) or so years between when this game is set
: and when Halo began.

Covenant tech is imitative and really hasn't changed much, minor retconning aside. See: any Brute tech and the Jackal on the ship the Spartans blew up in FoR that had the same equipment as the Jackals in the games do, 20-30 odd years later.

: ODSTers are pretty well armed and armored. You wouldn't (or so it seems
: from the rumor) be playing as Pvt. Jenkins. You'd be an ODST trooper. So,
: you'd be as badass as humans can get without being Spartans.

Technically, yes, but the scale goes like this: Spartan >Average Elite>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ODST>Marine>Grunt. ODST's are still children compared to Spartans, Elites, and especially Brutes and Hunters. A jackal is about the same size as a normal human, maybe even a little larger, and they are pretty small and weak compared to the player.

: Finally, why couldn't there be any vehicles? I don't understand this one at
: all.

I didn't say no vehicles, but they'd have to be overhauled so that they are more realistic to fit the overall theme of the game; currently, Halo vehicles are pretty arcadey. I can slam into a wall at 40 MPH in a Warthog and drive away; try doing that in real life or even a semi-realistic driving sim. Grenade flipping would also be a no-no. Plus, drivable vehicles in general don't really fit well in "gritty" war games, except as scripted sequences. And before anyone says Battlefield, those vehicles are about as fun as sticking a finger in a meat grinder. Especially the planes. Ugh.


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1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Red_Breast 4/25/08 7:47 a.m.
     Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.UNSC_Trooper 4/25/08 8:10 a.m.
           Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.mendicantbias00 4/25/08 8:33 a.m.
                 Note to self: "Read article, THEN reply." *NM*mendicantbias00 4/25/08 8:41 a.m.
                       Re: Note to self: "Read article, THEN reply."Red_Breast 4/25/08 9:05 a.m.
                             Re: Note to self: "Read article, THEN reply."mendicantbias00 4/25/08 9:10 a.m.
                                   ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface. *NM*MasterChief2829 4/25/08 9:15 a.m.
                                         It DOES say 2009 =( Plus 3rd Person = Gladfacemendicantbias00 4/25/08 9:19 a.m.
                                         Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.gspawn 4/25/08 10:57 a.m.
                                               Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.Bry 4/25/08 3:35 p.m.
                                                     Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.DHalo 4/25/08 3:59 p.m.
                                                           Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.Bry 4/25/08 4:14 p.m.
                                                                 Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.DHalo 4/25/08 4:21 p.m.
                                                                       Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.Bry 4/25/08 4:59 p.m.
                                                                             Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.DHalo 4/25/08 5:04 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: ^ It says 2009. Plus 3rd Person = Sadface.Bry 4/25/08 5:10 p.m.
                                         Chronicles is also unlikely to release this year. *NM*DHalo 4/25/08 3:15 p.m.
     This would be the hardest game everbovine politics 4/25/08 10:14 a.m.
           Re: This would be the hardest game evermendicantbias00 4/25/08 10:26 a.m.
           Re: This would be the hardest game everdeadguy71 4/25/08 11:00 a.m.
                 Re: This would be the hardest game evermendicantbias00 4/25/08 11:03 a.m.
                       Re: This would be the hardest game everdeadguy71 4/25/08 11:37 a.m.
                             Thanks deadguy71!mendicantbias00 4/25/08 11:42 a.m.
                 Re: This would be the hardest game evermub 4/27/08 8:41 a.m.
           Re: This would be the hardest game everAwe Venger 4/25/08 11:50 a.m.
           I don't see why...stan 4/25/08 1:32 p.m.
                 Re: I don't see why...bovine politics 4/25/08 3:20 p.m.
                       Re: I don't see why...Cthulhu117 4/25/08 3:35 p.m.
                       Re: I don't see why...DHalo 4/25/08 4:01 p.m.
     Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.deadguy71 4/25/08 10:47 a.m.
     Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Mortifer Nexus 4/25/08 11:06 a.m.
           Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.sketchfactor 4/25/08 11:54 a.m.
                 Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Louis Wu 4/25/08 12:16 p.m.
                       Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.sketchfactor 4/25/08 4:28 p.m.
                 Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.serpx 4/25/08 12:16 p.m.
                       Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Devin Olsen 4/25/08 12:22 p.m.
                       I don't know about that...stan 4/25/08 1:39 p.m.
                 Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Mortifer Nexus 4/29/08 10:20 a.m.
     Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Cody Miller 4/25/08 1:59 p.m.
           Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Ragashingo 4/25/08 2:14 p.m.
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                       Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Ragashingo 4/25/08 7:49 p.m.
     Re: 1UP/EGM Rumour mill.Turtle Mann 4/25/08 2:33 p.m.
     I was kinda hoping...Rosco-128 4/25/08 5:17 p.m.



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